Need help in designing a kitchen which is in front of house
tresstine
9 years ago
This room in an 18th Century house should be a library but it must be a kitchen! The dining room is just across the hallway which is most convenient. The original kitchen is some distance away, now a large utility room. The new kitchen is to replace one put in in 1970s.
A pantry across the corner is my preferred choice or somewhere. Scrabbling about in the backs of cupboards is what I want to avoid in future. Also my saucepans+lids are in a big drawer below hob. which was thought to be a good idea by kitchen supplier at the time but hanging up somewhere by the handle seems better idea now. Behind pantry doors perhaps. I am trying so hard to get away from kitchen designs which are meant for that room "out the back" or farmhouse or mod.minimalist. My original floor is fumed oak and very much bored by ancient insects. I have to think of something else. Hall floor is large limestone slabs. Not practical if pipes are laid in space under. However I have thought of an open grid where pipes occur. A wood floor is probably the best option. The dining room is quite grand and I'm trying to think of something liveable in, comfortable but toned down grand for the kitchen!
A pantry across the corner is my preferred choice or somewhere. Scrabbling about in the backs of cupboards is what I want to avoid in future. Also my saucepans+lids are in a big drawer below hob. which was thought to be a good idea by kitchen supplier at the time but hanging up somewhere by the handle seems better idea now. Behind pantry doors perhaps. I am trying so hard to get away from kitchen designs which are meant for that room "out the back" or farmhouse or mod.minimalist. My original floor is fumed oak and very much bored by ancient insects. I have to think of something else. Hall floor is large limestone slabs. Not practical if pipes are laid in space under. However I have thought of an open grid where pipes occur. A wood floor is probably the best option. The dining room is quite grand and I'm trying to think of something liveable in, comfortable but toned down grand for the kitchen!
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9 years agotresstine
9 years agoLeading from new kitchen is family room leading to old kitchen. Both these areas being part of old 18th century service area then leading on through other rooms where water was collected including a well, and so on. History. All I'm now looking for is a 21st century kitchen of good design with pantry.
allgranite
9 years agotresstine
9 years ago
Sarah McColm
9 years agotresstine
9 years ago
PROOnePlan
9 years agoSarah McColm
9 years agotresstine
9 years agoMy kitchen dimensions are 15'7" -14'5"-12' high. or 4.75m-4.40m-3.66m high
The depression by the current doorway (I opened this up as it was an ancient doorway to street) was put there also by me to let more light into the room below and I thought we would have a small table there for informal meals. Didn't work so I blocked it up again with breeze blocks. That particular wall, being an original outside stone wall, is 2' thick or 61 cms. It has an RSJ above it and a 2' wide wall below the depression or opening which I tiled with quarry tiles same as in room with wood burner. If I dug out the rest of the stone I might not be popular!!
The bulge with clock is boxing-in of gas and electric meters.
The attached photos were taken at night with main light on but no under cupboard lights as they cast too bright a light for photo.
Sarah McColm
9 years agoThat's great thanks! I've thrown together a rough kitchen layout for you to think about.
Some other questions:
Do you want a large American style fridge/freezer, a tall slim one, or is the under-counter you've got now all you need?
Do you mind having a range oven or do you prefer to have your oven at eye level? Would it be possible to have the oven in the fireplace or would that be crazy? ;)
How important is having a draining board to you?
Also could you measure how big your recess with the lamp is, and the distance from the door beside it to the fireplace wall?
Hope this is helping - tell me if I'm going a bit nuts - I've gotten a bit of a bug for design after working on my own house :) x
mefor
9 years ago
Victoria
9 years agoVictoria
9 years agoSarah McColm
9 years agotresstine
9 years agoSarah McColm
9 years agoHello!
I'm going to take this opportunity to advise against a walk in corner pantry. You really don't get a huge amount of storage for the area you are sacrificing, and I think you'll find it a pain shuffling in and out of a narrow set of double doors for every ingredient/pan you need. I think it'll make your kitchen feel more closed and cramped instead of the lovely airy space it looks now.
Yes, corners are a big pain, but the corner pantry would not only take up that corner but another two 60cm runs of good cabinet and worktop just so you can stand in it. There are some lovely solutions now-a-days, I think you could find a good fit for you.
I get that you don't like the trays (although I'm not sure which ones - there are quite a few different types) but I'm gonna throw out some other corner solutions to see if you like any of them:
http://dornob.com/corner-drawers-6-solutions-for-awkward-kitchen-spaces/#axzz39GIjyuBf
http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/dada/storages-cabinets-kitchens-4128-1247429.html
http://elraco.com.au/product_info.php/revolving-unit-revolving-corner-unitbr-lazy-susanbr-700mm-diameterbr-chrome-finish-steel-baskets-p-9489
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/49610033370475201/
http://www.pinterest.com/pin/319263061057431582/
http://www.amazon.com/Knape-Vogt-RRC28K-W-Rotary-Recycling/dp/B0006NIFNK
If you still think you'd love the corner cabinet - let none of this dissuade you (and I'd still enjoy helping with your kitchen if you'd want me to!). Our homes should be filled with things that make us smile if they can be :) x
tresstine thanked Sarah McColmSarah McColm
9 years agoHere's an idea to add extra storage. I'd only make these cupboards 35-45cm deep for ease of walking past. You wouldn't be rummaging around the backs of cupboards at that depth either :) Height wise, I'd line them up with the boxing in that your clock is sitting on/window height. If you did use this area for storage like this, then I'd change your glass door to the family room into a pocket door (disappearing into that gap you excavated).
tresstine
9 years ago
Carina Baylis
6 years agolast modified: 6 years ago
I'd look to restore that fireplace and maybe put a log burner in there. Re-site the boiler - if it has to stay in the kitchen move it into a cupboard somewhere, in our last house we put the oven housing over it so there was no concern over heat build-up and we also put a towel rail on the inside of the cupboard door so that our tea towels etc. dried out quickly but were out of sight. See if you can get those pipes recessed into the walls and the cornice restored. You can have gas & electric meters moved - get them put in a cupboard out of the way somewhere. Flooring wise, only have ceramic/stone tiles if that's a solid floor underneath. If it's boards go with wood or something like Karndean/Amtico because large floor tiles will crack if laid over wood and small ones look terrible. Make use of the height of your ceilings - go for taller wall cupboards, they look far more elegant. Style-wise, I'd go for a classic wood construction, framed door style in a very pale, silk finish grey with natural carrara marble worktops if your budget will stretch. (Hate the tiles in this picture, looks like a public toilet! but the style of cabinet would be perfect)
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