Breakfast bar design flaw...

8 years ago

Just realised that the open plan kitchen I'd planed has a major flaw, the door will hit it upon entrance, any thoughts on a new design, perhaps a stepped breakfast bar? I need room to fit legs under the bar...

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Clover Kitchens

8 years ago

Hi

So you have taken out the top half of the old kitchen wall.

Could you take out the rest of the wall? It's not needed and if it's gone then this would be your knee space for the breakfast bar with a worktop depth of around 900mm.

I've seen this sort of thing several times before and really keeping half the old wall just causes problems.

CK

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jacksplash
8 years ago
Are you referring to the door I can see to the right? If so could you switch it to the other side?
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
Hi Jack,

Thanks for getting back to me, there is actually a door on the left, the front door, it just out of sight. My problem is that it's a leasehold property, and you can't make alterations that affect the outer side of the property, although in effect it won't..
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jacksplash
8 years ago
I see, hmm there is a designer here called oneplan that may be able to help

If I see them around I will ask them if they can pop in.
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OnePlan
8 years ago
Hi !! You found me !!

Ah ! Is this the main entrance door ?! ie in constant use ?
And it's behind the boxes in the second set of pictures ?! Is it hinged on left or right ? And does it overlap the end of the short wall when the door is open ? How much does it overlap ?
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
Hi,

Appreciate you getting back to me.

You should see from this picture that, the door would hit a standard breakfast bar when fully opened, it's just not practical as I'd like to have quite a large over hang. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards

S.
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
And yes the door is in constant use, it's the main door to the apartment.
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
Hi Matt,

Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes if you see the first picture that will show the full extent of how open plan it will be. As you can see from the last picture, the position of door being hinged, does not lend itself well to the initial design. I'm unable to swap the door round I think, as it's a leasehold property.
crowningfashion
8 years ago
That's your answer! Well done Clover Kitchens. Vespagts remove the whole plasterboard and have a worktop with a supporting leg. That way the stools will fit under the bar when not in use and you will not need a huge overhang.

I also suggest making contact with the person who owns the freehold or finding out what you can and cannot do.
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Clover Kitchens
8 years ago
Have you got a floor plan and or kitchen plan? It's difficult to understand what you are trying to achieve.
Are you thinking you are going to put a lump of wood or stone on top of what's left of the wall and call that the breakfast bar?
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
Hi,

Yes that was the original plan to put a slab of wood on top, the problem is that if I take down the remaining wall, It will show my integrated appliances which have already been ordered. This is a rough layout plan.
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Clover Kitchens
8 years ago
Thought so - easily sorted, take the wall out completely, then you just need an island back panel from your kitchen company.

Will save you space, get your problem resolved and look much better than leaving some of a wall in.
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
Sounds like the way forward, many thanks, appreciate your help.
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Clover Kitchens
8 years ago
no problem.

Are you getting or have you purchased it from B & Q? If you don't mind me asking. Only because it looks like you have gone to a fair amount of work in reducing the height of the wall and replastering etc. where any half decent kitchen designer would have seen the issue quickly on the survey and come up with this solution.

Thanks
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OnePlan
8 years ago
Maybe a pear shaped bar - bulbous at the far end could also work ?
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
Hi Matt,

I just had different designs drawn up from all the major kitchen suppliers, but agree, it should of been spotted. I have got someone in independently to fit it.

And K, I have explored the idea of it loading more at one end, also I'm looking at a stepped up breakfast bar, either way could make it more of a feature.
Edel Moran
8 years ago
Could you add a semi-circle extension to the end of the counter? Would give leg space
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
That could work too, this is proving to be very worthwhile, the kitchen will be in tomorrow, except the worktops, so I just need to talk to the joiner and see what we can do... Appreciate your help.
Edel Moran
8 years ago
Would also suggest a circular unit, c/w with a floor to ceiling support, which could also have useful small shelving/baskets to hold small items - available as a kitchen assessory
Simon Petts
Original Author
8 years ago
I think that is a good idea, I'll access the storage space issue tomorrow when all the units are in. I need to find room for a wine rack too! Priorities...

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