Need help with my kitchen

8 years ago

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Hi,

we are constructing a new house and its kitchen is really small. I have added the plan of it. I'm confused about the placements of appliances in my kitchen.

I have marked a,b,c,d in the diagram. where should I consider to place the sink,dishwasher, stove and refrigerator? it's a closed kitchen and there is a window at side "a".

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Sativa McGee Designs

8 years ago

First if you are fully enclosing the kitchen than I would move the south wall out more into the dining room, that room is massive!!! Atleast come flush to the alcove wall.

What is just under the powder bath?

Is it necessary to have a wall between the hallway and kitchen? If not that alone could gain you 4.5" of space and might give you enough room for sink and dishwasher to fit along the north window wall.

I would center the range along the east wall and place the refrigerator on the south wall against the dining room.

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Patricia Colwell Consulting
8 years ago
I agree the DR is huge you need a KD to get this done properly not the architect that really doesn’t care about your kitchen Can’t tell about the whole floor plan but this area is poorly laid out IMO
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well you certainly got my grey matter working on a sunday morning- i'm currently redesigning my own and a family members kitchen so have been full swing in this thought process for some time! I live in UK too so know how difficult it is to work in these spaces- (is the kitchen on side of house? is there garden space behind the cooker/hob wall?) Two questions though are necessary: 1 ) What are dimensions of room? (I'm guessing about 18ft long, by 9ft wide -measuring to the window sill- excluding the 1ft outer wall depth) 2 ) What is your budget? Enough to only stretch to replacing kitchen units? or a whole remodel- moving gas pipe/sink position etc. Are you keeping the floor? I've attached two room designs that I think would work well (assuming you have 9-10ft width to play with). Both I think will give a better flow to the room, and allow you to add the wow factor. Think about how you want to use the space not just the aesthetic look. The first design swaps the layout, and the second- you can have the sink and hob in the island. The best way to keep costs down would be to spend money on the island/kitchen cabinetry and granite/concrete worktop- but use full height MODULAR wall cabinet shelving (any joiner could do, or buy standard shelves/open cabinetry from ikea or affordable places like this)- to keep costs down and open shelving would suit your industrial style too. Interestingly you mention its a 1930s house- are there art deco features in your house? Both industrial and art deco styles have things in common- monochrome colour palette, reflective surfaces (mirrors/stainless steel), architectural elements (strong straight lines/grids- consider crittal windows?? perfect for both designs) and grey would suit both. If you want more industrial style- consider exposed brickwork also. If you can't afford bifold doors- consider French doors and full height window panels either side to give the same effect On reflection- I realise Jo DP and I seem to be on similar lines of thought! Hope these pictures help :) and please send us pictures once you're done. Good luck! [houzz=https://www.houzz.co.uk/photos/7-austin-terrace-transitional-kitchen-dallas-phvw-vp~7487236] [houzz=] [houzz=] [houzz=] [houzz=] [houzz=] [houzz=]
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8 years ago
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ThanksSativa Jaeger Designs LLC :-)
I would consider moving the wall more to the dining area.And the Dining area is not that big as it is seen in the picture. The area opposite to "Guest WC " is just a closet.
The wall between the hallway and kitchen is very much needed, otherwise there is no partition between kitchen and "Guest WC". This is standard design of a detached house in West Europe, the house is in the city limits so that there are certain limitations with the plan...
But my point was mainly, how to place the appliances in this kitchen and make use of the space in a most desirable way. I cannot decide on the exact spot for the appliances like sink, stove,dish washer and fridge.
Anyway Thanks a Lot for your inputs!
auntthelma
8 years ago
Assuming the dining room wall is solid (not sure because it looks like there are bar stools there, but) Assuming it is solid, sink in front of the window.

On the long wall, a dishwasher and range.

On the dining room wall, the refrigerator. That is so the 'fridge is accessible to all for drinks and ice without having to be in your work space.
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8 years ago
what I think is;

a - dish washer
b - sink
c - stove
d - refrigerator

which order would you suggest?
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8 years ago
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Thanks auntthelma, A Sink at the window was also my idea, have to check if it is possible as It can block the window , as it opens towards the kitchen :-( Yes the dining room wall is solid (please neglect the bar stools) as we are going to close that side. As per the plan it was supposed to be an open kitchen, but we don't prefer it. thanks/
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Sativa McGee Designs
8 years ago
a-sink

b-D/W

c-Range

d-Refrigerator

Can you look at atleast moving the kitchen opening up further north? so that the refrigerator doors can swing open all the way without going into the hallway.
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8 years ago
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sure, will consider that Sativa Jaeger Designs LLC , great observation indeed! :) thank you! we also have a sliding door for this kitchen to save some space:)
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Sativa McGee Designs
8 years ago
Perfect, it looks like it is coming together nicely.
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Cabinets by Design LLC
8 years ago
I would consider putting the refrigerator backed up to the dining room wall in the corner by the opening if that wall is solid and if there is room. I would keep sink under window and dish washer at B and then range at C. I would try to keep the entrance into the kitchen a little wider since the room is somewhat small.
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8 years ago
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Cabinets by Design LLC if there is no room there, where would you consider placing the refrigerator? I would need some dry area (counter top) as well to keep my mixer/blender etc. also some space in the bottom for cabinets to keep all those big vessels for cooking.

How to make use of the corner portion well? side - d?

I have to think about the possibility Sativa Jaeger Designs LLC mentuioned , about moving the kitchen opening up further north. I also don't want want the kitchen door to be just opposite to toilet door . the kitchen door should start at the point where toilet door ends.

I know this is a huge challenge, as it is really small and thats the only drawback of this house which we had to compromise considering all other aspects.
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Sativa McGee Designs
8 years ago
even just moving it 6" north would give you enough room to have the refrigerator on the south wall up against the wall.

So that you can have continuous counter top space between the refrigerator and range for prepping and your small appliances.
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Sativa McGee Designs
8 years ago
A refrigerator in a corner takes up SO much space and in an already small kitchen you would waste a few square feet.
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