Need help for my kitchen - position of gas hob
Hello
We're looking to renovate the kitchen of our first floor maisonette in Wandsworth. We're trying to maximise the space and use of space, by putting an external staircase in and being clever about layout. Can anyone advise on the official regulations on gas hobs and proximity to windows (even if fitted with a flame supervision device)? There are a lot of mixed messages on this. I've mocked up a possible design in some free software, which all fits quite nicely - see the image. But I don't know if we'll be prevented from having the hob in that location. We'd also like to avoid having to move the current boiler if we can (which I've hidden inside a cabinet above the kettle in the image).
Any ideas or advice welcome!
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7 years agojdawson2402 thanked Caldicot Kitchen & Bathroom CentreRelated Discussions
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Comments (6)If you have a magnet, hold it to the Le Creuset pots. If it sticks to the pot, you can use it on an induction hob. I’ve recently switched from gas to induction. Induction is much quicker and you can let the burner switch off automatically after a set time. And it’s easy to clean. So far the advantages I’ve found. Disadvantages: can’t see the flame, so have to work out what the settings do. I’m taking a long time to get used to that, but then again, I’ve only ever cooked on gas before. Sometimes the pans make an annoying high pitched tone. I had to buy new pans, but my big iron stew pot (not Le Creuset) should work on it. Haven’t used it yet, but it is magnetic. For my other pans I went to IKEA and got a great set with heavy glass lids from there. Very happy with them. Had to say goodbye to one of my big iron frying pans, because the bottom was slightly warped and then it doesn’t work well either. All in all I’m happy with the induction hob. I love the speed. But I think I still prefer gas. Anyway... we have a downdraft in an island, so gas wasn’t an option. But you could do both perhaps? Two gas burners, two induction ones for example?...See MoreSafety regulation - between gas hob & wall cabinets. Need quick advice
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jdawson2402
7 years agoHello all
Thank you very much for all these comments. First time using Houzz properly and I'm impressed. Before reading these, I actually played around with the layout a bit further myself last night and came to the same conclusion as some of your suggestions. I've attached an updated possible plan - but in the same 3d software (which is certainly limited, but still pretty helpful since it's free!). I've tried to label some of the key appliances. This layout places the oven and hob (750mm wide - I'd prefer 900mm if at all possible) in a different position and avoids the window problem, but also has space either side (which would be best).
To answer most of your questions:
- Internal room dimensions are 4520mm wide by 4450mm long, 2650mm tall
- However, there is currently a thick wall along the entrance to the kitchen, immediately to the left of the door - this houses a chimney flue (for our property and the one below). The chimney stack has been removed from the roof and we are able to knock into some of that wall, to increase the amount of the kitchen with length 4450mm. However in the far corner (by the smaller window), we would like to keep the existing thick wall because there is a cupboard in the adjacent room that uses that void from the other side. In my latest design, you'll see how much of the wall we think we might want to take out in order to create more space at the room entrance.
- The breakfast bar stools are a nice-to-have - the main purpose of the peninsular is to slightly separate the kitchen part from the rest of the room and allow conversations across it whilst chopping, having a drink, etc. T a drinks cooler at one end which we would like to fit in somewhere and I just thought the stools on the other side / at the corner might be handy when it's just me and my wife.
- The fridge (in the corner by the new outside door) is large American Style in my latest design but that's not essential - a good sized 600mm fridge freezer would be fine too, especially if we have the drinks cooler.
- I haven't looked at induction hobs and have always preferred gas in the past, but I will research these - thank you.
- I agree that the microwave should be integrated if possible!
- As mentioned, the boiler (and all the pipework) would ideally stay in its current position to save the cost of moving it - but we'd want to then box it in and fit other things around it. I think that just about works in the latest design idea.
Caldicot Kitchen & Bathroom Centre - thank you for your kind offer to mock something up in your own software. I'm a novice at this and yes, the software I found doesn't allow that much customisation of unit heights etc. hence the untidiness! This also isn't trying to show the style we want - and we haven't yet thought a huge amount about that. We'd probably opt for granite work surfaces and wooden units in simple light colours. Leaning towards traditional kitchen styling, not too modern. The property is a 1910 maisonette with period fire places in some rooms, although doors are shaker style. Floor wise - we'd like a stone / tile look but warm and easy to clean so not natural stone!
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7 years agoJohn (Caldicot Kitchen & Bathroom Centre) - thank you very much indeed for those plans. Shows the power of Houzz! Whilst I'm not too sure about the central island with a table attached to it, we really appreciate your drawings and will certainly throw your ideas into the mix when we come to the Design & Build phase. At the moment, we are seeking planning permission to put in an external staircase (hence the new door) which allows us to extend our kitchen space over the top of the current internal staircase.
Regarding your point about using a local independent, I presume you mean a kitchen design and supply company? We have spoken to a couple of trade companies who offer free design services and we also have word-of-mouth recommendations for project manager / build teams who claim they can manage the design and fitting. But I'll see if we can find a well-regarded local kitchen company for comparison as well.
Many thanks again and feel free to throw in any more suggestions that come to you. You have our room dimensions and constraints pretty much bang on - we have flexibility about how much of the wall next to the entrance door to remove and where on the back wall to position the external door. That's about it! The window on the back wall is 1200mm wide and 1250mm from the corner where the table is. There is currently a radiator down the side wall - I've shown another view from the draft plan I created over the weekend below.
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