Single Track Bi-Passing Sliding Barn or pocket Doors

7 years ago

i have a downstairs bathroom and utility room next together in my house renovation plans.

both openings will be on same wall with overall wall depth of 3 meters.

as its a tight space in a hall way i am struggling to find companies with either pocket doors that can bi pass other.

i was also thinking of a barn effect bi-passing door but not sure if i can fit bathroom lock on them, or if it was fit in the overall look as we will have another glass door in black frame overlooking the contemporary kitchen island and garden.

i am london, uk based - so any idea's would be appreciated.

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Isidora Markovic
7 years ago
last modified: 7 years ago
Hi there,

I personally really love the look of sliding barn doors but they fit in best with certain interior styles (such as rustic), so if you feel it might be out of place in yours maybe it's best not to mix and match. With barn sliding the mechanism upon which the door opens/closes is visible as a bar above it? I've also seen this to be the case in some track bi-passing doors. To illustrate what I mean:

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Whereas with pocket doors, the mechanism is all hidden as it's entirely integrated into the wall. Overall I think pocket doors tend to be more discreet/less statement making. So I think it all depends on what kind of look you're going for and what will fit in with your interior best!
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7 years ago
Hello - Thanks for advice .. would you know of any companies that in particular will do bi passing barn or pocket doors?
I am London based.
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HI Nick. Yes you're right Shahina did write that about French doors. I was stuck on the bi-folds in to the Hallway looking slightly cumbersome. I'm was sure that somebody wrote about fire doors, but I can't see it, maybe it was a different post ( i read a lot ). Best to check with the local building control department as I believe your property is a top floor flat ( if the hallways leads to the stairs ), therefore, I think there are regulations that might need adhering to. This comes from an article at :- Arma.Org.UK " Replacement or removal of internal flat doors and internal layout alterations; Like flat entrance doors, certain doors inside your flat i.e. the kitchen door, or if you live in a maisonette all the doors between a room and your staircase, are also fire doors. Their purpose is to prevent a fire from spreading from the room it started within, to another room and to stop the fire and smoke preventing you from leaving your flat. As such if you want to remove or replace any internal doors or alter the layout of your flat in any way, you must attain building control and [the Landlords], so we can ensure that the work you want to carry out won’t prevent you being able to escape if a fire starts in your home. If the work you plan to do includes any work which will involve knocking or drilling a hole in any wall, floor or ceiling i.e. to install a flue or run any cabling, we also need to ensure that the integrity of the wall, floor or ceiling is reinstated. So in the event of a fire, in your flat, your neighbours or the communal area, that the fire and smoke aren’t able to pass through the hole into another part of the building. " The above may change what you can and can't have. The whole point of the false wall for the pocket door was that it was hidden inside the kitchen and therefore would not change the facade of the Hallway. Putting the false wall in the Hallway wouldn't work well in your property as it has period features all round. I put in the french doors that may or may not work and went with this as an alternative plan. Although you don't get the average 'walk room' of 1m around the little island ( you get around 80cm), the island is on wheels and contains two stools, so it's very versatile. I had in mind something like this, although i have seen albeit far more stylish ones available, just didn't have that much time to go googling! The washing machine is under the drainer of the sink. This gives you the impression of a more spacious kitchen as without the butchers block on wheels the space between surfaces is around 1.8m
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Simplicity Timber Solutions Ltd.
7 years ago
Hello,

There are lots of variations of straight slide door gearing from concealed gearing to faced fixed gearing, this can be rustic or contemporary. I think its fair to say that budget plays a huge part in these kind of decisions.

We specialise in unique openings using timber and gearing. Take a look at our website www.simplicitytimbersolutions.co.uk

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