Dining table - Stay or Go?
KJT
6 years ago
So I have quite a dilemma here. We are having an orangery installed on the back of the kitchen, but cannot decide if we should have the access point through the wall where the dining table is now (we like the flow this way) or go through where the sink is currently?
The first option means we will have to lose the dining table permanently (or lose some floor cupboards to compensate and allow room for one). The compromise in this case is to have a breakfast bar fitted on the end of the run of units and then have the access to the orangery straight through the wall where the dining table is now
or:
shift the floor units over about a 12 inches towards the hob (to allow a bit more elbow room around the dining table in its current position), and then access the orangery through the wall where the sink is now and move the sink further down the worktop so that it stoats opposite where the hob is.
Our issue is that we are not sure if sitting on (albeit comfy) stools/high chairs will get annoying very quickly (are we really going to want to linger over a meal sat at a breakfast bar), as opposed to a proper dining table and chairs?
Plus, what do you guys think of the 'flow' going into an orangery through where the sink is? Is it better through the wall by the dining table?
I hope that makes sense!
The first option means we will have to lose the dining table permanently (or lose some floor cupboards to compensate and allow room for one). The compromise in this case is to have a breakfast bar fitted on the end of the run of units and then have the access to the orangery straight through the wall where the dining table is now
or:
shift the floor units over about a 12 inches towards the hob (to allow a bit more elbow room around the dining table in its current position), and then access the orangery through the wall where the sink is now and move the sink further down the worktop so that it stoats opposite where the hob is.
Our issue is that we are not sure if sitting on (albeit comfy) stools/high chairs will get annoying very quickly (are we really going to want to linger over a meal sat at a breakfast bar), as opposed to a proper dining table and chairs?
Plus, what do you guys think of the 'flow' going into an orangery through where the sink is? Is it better through the wall by the dining table?
I hope that makes sense!
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6 years agoI hope I've got the orangery position correct. Depending on how much you want to alter your beautiful kitchen, I would either keep the sink where it is, move some units to the radiator position and move the table in a bit:
My preferred option would be to have a kitchen island and attach the dining table to this:
Either way, I would have double doors going off the dining area as you planned. Sorry about rubbish drawings, not to scale etc!
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6 years agoSorry not very clear! In the second one I thought you could move all the units into the middle of the room to create an Island, likely adding new full or half depth units behind and possibly swapping sink and hob positions. Then place the table adjoining the island, something like this. As I say nothing is to scale, so you'd need to check it all fits comfortably, but looking at your photos it seemed to me it would...
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6 years agoIsn't it great when you post a plan, it all becomes clearer. Was going to suggest what Jen P has, Makes for a much better layout. Not sure what dimensions you have for the Orangery, what extensions you may have had in the past or what you may get away with under permitted development further. But...................do you have the ability to fill in the corner of dining area and then build the Orangery? It makes for a better shaped room. I'd also go for bi-folds where possible so that you can to in and out / open out etc
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6 years agoNice idea but the 'step' is load bearing external wall and if it was replaced with an RSJ there would have to be a pillar or something to support the inboard end of the beam. I don't think you'd be able to open it out quite like that having thought about it a bit more.
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