I need your HELP with Reno Floor Plan!
Hi All,
I feel the existing floor plan has wasted space (I lived with it after building 25 years ago and always thought it) and now it’s time to renovate and improve these areas!
The kitchen/family room I would like to focus onto the newer pool/entertainment area outside and incorporate the downstairs room with the rest of the house to create open plan living. I haven't considered the layout of the Butlers Pantry but would like to incorporate the sink and dishwasher somehow. Even the fridge if suitable.
I would like the master bedroom to be simplified and centered to the feature window to create a better design flow and look. I don't know where to place the toilet in the ensuite without changing the original layout which I would prefer not to do but would if I needed to.
I have drawn an example of my ideas to help explain myself a little better which you can see below.
I do have some concerns that access to the study, which we use regularly, will be compromised and the Kitchen/Butler’s Pantry will be in full view from the front door. I understand that the change in direction of the stairs will incur a large cost so if there’s any way to achieve the desired result without this changing my husband would be very happy!
I would love your feedback as this is not my field of expertise...I'm just a very patient person but 25 years is long enough to wait! Any suggestions or drawings would be greatly appreciated... many thanks!
EXISTING FLOOR PLAN
NEW FLOOR PLAN...my ideas
BEDROOM WINDOW & RUMPUS ROOM
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siriuskey
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoLooks like you're very good at drawing plans unlike my self, great house.
Can I suggest the following in my rough sketch.
With the addition of the pool the access to the kitchen and deck will be very important as will the Rumpus room, which could become a parents retreat ?/Media room.
I thought to open up the rooms to the North to look out over the new pool.
Would you consider changing the front entrance to the double doors opening into the current dining.
I have tried working around moving the ensuite WC to create a Master suite.
The study is swapped with bed 4
Keeping the stairs as they are and changing your kitchen to include a WIP
A separate dish washing zone,
I have considered adding another sink and DW next to the family sink, this could be closed off plus access to extra storage back under the stairs.
Or you could work a small laundry into that corner,.. If not consider moving the laundry down stairs closer to clothes line.
A bigger Island bench to suit your family.
Hopefully you will be able to see where I am going with this cheers
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6 years ago
dickinsonfamily4
6 years agoHi oklouise
Thank-you for your interest I really appreciate it…
I have included the original plans of the house with
all the measurements to make things a bit easier for you. There have been a
couple of changes made over the years as you will see looking at the existing
layout.In answer to your questions…
The study could be relocated
I could go without the laundry door but wouldn’t have
as easy access to the clothesline although I could compromiseThe laundry could be combined with the pantry
The wardrobes are in good condition but could be
relocated if necessaryUnfortunately, there’s no downstairs bathroom. The
walls are double brick with concrete infill making them 300ml thick of solid
concrete, brick and steel…total over-kill from the engineers report!I love the style and feel of the house but other than
that I would be open to any changes as I feel the layout is dated…with wasted
space.I hope this helps…thanks again!
dickinsonfamily4
6 years agooklouise
6 years agomy suggestions retain the present position of the stairs and kitchen but stealing a little extra off the stairwell and family room creates a small butlers' pantry with sink dw and fridge as well as views to the pool and a servery window...sacrificing space off the laundry enlarges the ensuite, allows space for WIW for her and a walk through hallway with biw for him and doors opening to the deck
....and before you give up on a downstairs bathroom Google Saniflow for info on a special arrangement for installing toilets "anywhere"dickinsonfamily4 thanked oklouisesiriuskey
6 years agoWe have to keep Hubby happy. You mention Limestone does that mean you
are in SA, that stone is porous and cuts easily with a saw.Is
there room under the deck to build in for the WC & Shower?, Saniflow
products are great for difficult situations, our plumber introduced us
to them, he's very much a can do bloke, not your usual it's "too hard basket"I
have to say that I don't like entering a master bedroom via a WIR if
you're anything like most people they are in a constant state of mess
plus stuff being dropped on the floor. The only way to improve this is
to use large sliding doors with mirrors would be good.I also
don't agree with looking through a WIP from the kitchen to see any view,
the purpose of a pantry is for storage but to also cover up any mess.
This blocks quite a lot of your out look and reduces storage taken up by
a large window.
My suggestion to place the Pantry in the
corner and back over the stair space would be a much better option, this
still offers a large kitchen window with out door servery.I have tried working your master again, with trying to keep the bed facing the window as you suggested.
Moved the laundry backing onto the bathroom for plumbing access and easy access from the kitchen, all of this to try to give you a WIR and Study/dressing room etc.
Moved the wood burning fire by placing a new updated insert into the brick fireplace.
Changed the entry wall and opened up others to give lots of open plan, light and views out towards the new pool entertaining, will you be including an outdoor kitchen/BBQ along with shower and WC to function with this new area. The current external stairs makes easy access to and from the kitchen. cheers PS: sorry about the drawing purely for ideas.
siriuskey
6 years agolast modified: 6 years ago
Looking back over what you thought you could do has made me try another time with the kitchen and pantry along the back wall as you suggested and adding in the french doors you had planned to match the others. The kitchen cam be reduced but I think you house with open plan a big kitchen would work. cheers
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6 years agooklouise
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agothe rumpus and kitchen are too far apart to work together as one space... consider removing the wall of the living room to create the open plan areas.., there are already so many doors and windows upstairs and keeping the kitchen where it was has the most wall available for appliances and the pantry with fridge, sink and dw without restricting movement around the rooms and out to the balcony... Try the original dining room as a family room (adding glass doors to separate from the new open plan area?) and keep downstairs for a rumpus or theatre media room ...i've included another option for the master suite with the bed centred to the window and rearranged the ens and wiw to avoid unnecessary extra hallways but this bed position is a hike for whoever sleeps on the far side of the bed...
siriuskey
6 years agoTo explain what I'am trying to get at is that all that has been done
is to box in the existing sink space with walls, with no actual pantry
space gained.. ie: there is no storage on the wall where the fridge is within the
pantry (by putting the household fridge in the pantry will mean that the
door will be mostly open) plus no wall storage across the sink wall,
you are pretty much left with what you already had for actual Pantry
storage, but now you have this extra room in front of the window. Sorry I
don't get it and think it is a big mistake.
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6 years agodickinsonfamily4
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agoHi siriuskey
I apologise for not replying to you earlier but I have been reviewing your last plan over and over wanting to use the layout of the kitchen but concerned about the other changes. My main concern was the wiw/laundry area and the loss of a room, either the study or bed 4. But the idea gave me food for thought and I have been trying to work out a solution. Where there’s a will there’s a way!
I can see exactly what you mean about having the Butler’s Pantry in front of the window which was a major concern of mine even though I thought the servery was a really good idea. Thank-you for taking the time to point this out …and in such depth which would’ve been very time consuming for you!
I must admit it was a surprise to see the kitchen placement in your last layout. I would never ever have thought about doing that but loved the idea!
I have tweaked the plans a little by simplifying some of the changes and adding a few of my original ideas and I think I have come up with a solution. I will be very interested on your thoughts!
I placed the existing furniture (to size) into each of the rooms to see how it works with the new layout. Oh… and I love your suggestion about being able use the dining/family rooms as either!
I have also left the wall between the family room and lounge to see how it works before removing it completely but opened it up with double doors allowing entry from the front door to the main area...and a view of the fireplace is always welcoming.
It’s a great idea for a toilet and shower to service the pool area under the deck downstairs…I think that would work as there’s no limestone there (and no we’re not in SA) but I’II look at that once I get organised with these plans!
Thank-you again for your time and help…your feedback on my ‘tweaking’ would be greatly appreciated!
siriuskey
6 years agolast modified: 6 years agosiriuskey
6 years agoI have opened up the zones again as when you arranged furniture in them it actually showed how small they are and it would allow better space not to close off. You could however close off the dining and remove the doors opening into that space, the following doors would be lovely and still allow light and view, they can be done with fixed side panels with doors as well. I will take a look at the laundry and study again tomorrow cheers
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