Single wall kitchen with island. Is it possible with these dimensions?
The first drawing below is the main wall of our kitchen (not a floorplan) The ceiling is 2.8m high on the left, then slopes on the right. This is an internal wall. The wall on the right of the pic is wall which will open onto the garden.
I have titled the thread 'single wall kitchen with island' but technically it will not be a single wall kitchen as I will have a large pantry cupboard and integrated fridge freezer. These are located on the wall that is on the left. These areas will be created under the stairs that exist on the left side wall. As these are existing stairs, the stairs will remain and I cannot move them, so reckon pantry cupboard and integrated fridge freezer would be best use of the space.
So, the pic below is all available space. There are no windows on this wall. However the roof does slope as indicated. To the right of this wall is a 5m wall which will have 3.6m sliding doors onto garden. Parallel to the sliding doors I will have a dining table. I will have an island in front of the kitchen units, parallel. The island will start on the left and go to around 1.7-2m along. I will not have any sink or appliances on this island.
This single wall area needs to include -
sink
hob/oven - range preference
washing machine - currently is on the right under the sloped roof.
(dont have a dishwasher and don't plan on having one)
Dont really want lots of wall units, prefer shelves.
This wall backs onto the bathroom.
For extraction - less than half of the wall , only around 2.3m on the right side of the wall - is the exterior wall so would it be best to sit hob/oven nearer that side? This is a bungalow, ground floor.
Boiler, is currently actually on the 5m wall on the right of this wall. New boiler will have to be on this wall.
note- on the floorplan that window is being blocked up to allow better use of the space.
The size of the space is not flexible, this space exists, however it will be created by knocking down wall between kitchen and dining room. What we do with the space is open for suggestions.
Do you have any recommendations on how I could set out the kitchen?
Do I need wall cupboards?
I reckon a 1.7m island would be maximum length that would allow me to still have dining table?
I am happy with the space, but the one niggle is that I know on entering the kitchen you would be almost walking right through the area between kitchen and island. Dont think I can change that though
Any thoughts?
Many thanks for looking!
Comments (23)
Heather
5 years agoWhat’s the distance between the edge of the expand and the fridge freezer? (The green line)
Ellie thanked HeatherHeather
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Ellie
5 years agolast modified: 5 years agoEllie
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5 years agoHeather
5 years agoEllie, on the contrary actually I think an island would block your view of the bifold doors more than a peninsula would - see pics below. Imagine you have just walked through kitchen door next to stairs(that is person in the drawing, and the drawing is being viewed from the conservatory door side of the room) Not sure how tall you are but I am 5’6 and my eye level is roughly at 1.57m (have drawn in pic to be eye level at 1.5m) You can see that the base of the bifold doors are visible when looking over the entire peninsula (which is all base cabinets and I’ve drawn as being 1m high and 1m deep but in reality dimensions would probably be slightly less), however when looking over island the base of the doors are obscured. The dining table and chairs are going to be in the way of the doors whichever layout you use.
If you converted the under stairs bit into a space for washing machine and storage for kitchen items you use less often, then you could move the fridge freezer and larder to the main part of the kitchen - you would probably need to have sink on the peninsula, and then fridge freezer probably at the end of the wall bit under the sloping ceiling, with a tall larder next to it. You could also fit the range cooker on the walled side of the kitchen, and voila! You have your working triangle!
(Apologies for drawing a cyclops, I was just being lazy!)
Ellie
5 years agominipie
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5 years agoEllie
5 years agoMy plan. I have....
island 1.1m gap around
island size 1m x 2m
dining table to seat 6, one side bench
All sizes negotiable but do want these items.
It may give more space the island rotated 90 degrees but then it's not parallel to the run of units. . . and stools would be blocking access to fridge/pantry.
Suggestions welcome. thanks for looking
Heather
5 years agominipie
5 years agoHeather
5 years agoIf you put a 3x4m extension, you could have something like this..
It gives you 1m of space around each side of table, a big island, decent sized utility for your washing machine and kids grubby shoes!
Ellie
5 years agoHeather
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PROVisuals by design
5 years agoHi Ellie,
Would an island with seating attached to it be a thought, on the lines of the photo below?
If you wanted any help with the design and visuals before you go kitchen shopping, please do send me an email. That way you go to get a like for like price, you have also done the design process for them, which puts you in a good position for a discount :)
All the best in your project.
Chris
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5 years agoEllie
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