Help, Layout & Design
Nearly finished my plans, thanks for everyone’s help.
I just want to double check I have the layout right and couldn’t do better.
Kitchen - has to be 5.80m wide and Living has to be 5.20m long.
Black walls are new.
Photo attached is my inspiration for the kitchen/dining.
I think the weakest point is the master ensuite and guest bed.
The problem is one window on master looking onto a hedge row so not the best outlook, but I would get privacy and the ensuite is a little larger now so a bit more luxurious this way.
The guest bedroom is a bit of a squeeze as no wardrobe but I think I can get away with it - just.
Any help much appreciated as I would love to finalise and get it to planning.
Comments (15)
Rainbow752
5 years agoThanks very much Jonathan! You are very clever.
Study:
I will definitely put the study door on an angle!
Kitchen:
The only requirement I gave to my partner was if we had an open plan kitchen then I would need a butlers pantry, so this has to stay. ;-) I tried it everywhere and if we put it anywhere else it shortens the kitchen too much.
I will look into the kitchen design a bit more. I had my heart set on a large island and looking down onto the garden. However I do take your point on better use of space. I wish for a very minimal kitchen so it doesn't feel like one when I'm sat on the sofa.
Master:
is quite a dilemma. You are not the first person to suggest the bedroom on to the patio. But because of the tight 3,30m internal side extension it is difficult to put a bed in. I would most definitely need more wardrobe space too. I will keep trying layouts.
Bedroom 2:
can't be extended to the front and we are restricted at the sides, so this is the best I can get in terms of space.
Cloakroom:
If I keep the pantry, there is no where else to put the separate loo, so unless I can separate the guest bathroom loo I can't see anywhere else I can put it. It is tricky, I do think your layout is better but I'm stuck on my personal preference to have a pantry. Lols!
The property is a 1980's chalet bungalow with a double and a single and bathroom upstairs.
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Comments (21)I agree with Hugh re supervision plus by the time the extension is built your son will be nearing an age where he understands a little more. You may also want him in there to cook with you soon. I'm sure the kitchen can be designed from a safety aspect too if that's the only thing holding you back. I think the advantage of using OnePlan is that Karen can look at the whole house spatially etc and you're not tied to a particular kitchen company (I'm not on commission!). Click on her profile for reviews etc. I second Hugh's comments re karndean too! I like the heringbone parquet! If you did want to hire an interior designer (designers tend to be qualified in planning too I think as opposed to an interior decorator although many of those could be qualified by experience) then you could find you save as much as you spend. Some of them will offer you their trade discount which if doing the whole house could add up to an awful lot. They may also make you save from any mistakes and I've made a few of those! I'd go on houzz and search for pros and look at their reviews and previous work. I think you need to meet people yourself though as it's important to have a good working relationship and make sure they understand you...See Moreneed help with layout and design
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5 years agoRainbow752
5 years agoRainbow752
5 years agoJonathan
5 years agoSince the purpose of the skylight is likely to get light into the kitchen a long slim one may be better
Helen C
5 years agoHi
I have made a few more amendments.
Cloakroom - I moved it to the hall, as suggested. My partner says I have to think about being able to “rod” it and for it not to be too far from the outside wall near waste to keep costs down. So I think it may be quite a good place now.
Master Suite - I have now got two aspects and a good size dressing area. The ensuite has been reduced slightly and bath removed.
Kitchen - the study door is now on an angle (depending on structural engineer). But I shortened the worktop from 2.80m to 2.50m and removed the small store cupboard. So now the entrance is 1.30m (not 0.95m). I move the island over slightly too. I also lengthened the extension form 4,50m to 5,00m. Making it all very spacious.
I will definitely want a lantern as you suggested but will come down to cost probably
Any comments or improvements much appreciated. Thanks
Jonathan
5 years agoRegarding the last plan and your comments about budget I had a few notes:
I wonder if the guest cloakroom is necessary- especially since it is so close to the shower room.
I wonder if an opening between the kitchen and living room limits furniture placement and would be better omitted.
In my opinion taking a metre off the kitchen for the pantry makes the kitchen feel compromised and you have to have a steel to put it there- how about putting the washer and dryer in the shower room and making the utility into the pantry?
Suzanne C
5 years agoJust a thought regarding the pantry, are you hoping to put full size kitchen units in there or reduced depth / wall units? If you are happy with 300-400mm units which is perfect for a pantry, you can reduce the width of the pantry, have the WC in place with Jonathan’s first design and take a snippet off the study and you get all 3!
My utility /laundry room is only 1540mm wide but it can fit full size units and 3 towel rails on the wall the other side.
If you use reduced depth tall units, you can see what you when you open all the cupboards rather than dig around at the back of the shelves.
I have a reduced depth in one area as the wall juts out and this is perfect for all my cleaning bottles.
Rainbow752
5 years agoHi Thanks for your ideas and help!
Jonathan
The hidden pocket doors between kitchen and living are just an idea for Christmas parties etc to open up the space but it's just an idea and if it happened we would definitely put our sofa on that wall anyway.
I do think a separate loo is necessary as I wouldn't want guests going into the bathroom. This is why I compromised and had it in the utility as I would rather have one than not. So I just need the best place for it.
It I have near the FB, then the family bath (FB), could perhaps not have a loo and this way it would make the FB feel bigger having only a bath and double sink. Then the loo is only across the corridor? We are debating at home whether this would devalue the house or it is just weird. Personally I like my loo to be separate from my toothbrush - lols! But I won't be using this bathroom anyways.
Good idea to put the washer/dryer in bathroom, but I need a separate laundry/utility. I live in the countryside with dogs and it all gets too messy to just have washer/dryer in a bathroom or cupboard.
SuzanneYour room looks great! I too would like to have reduced shelving for some food storage at around 300mm but predominately I want it for a butlers pantry/scullery. It does seem extravagant however its on my wish list ;-)
A cross between these three below are how I plan to use it, with my microwave, 2nd dishwasher, small sink and food storage.
I find it interesting, you both think it is odd to jut the pantry out, which I agree in principle. The kitchen itself would be minimum 8.5m long and I wanted to access the pantry in the kitchen not the utility. I can't make my mind up.I have a 3D render of how much it juts out. I'm thinking its ok?
I could always move the kitchen entrance forward in line with the kitchen units as you enter?
Rainbow752
5 years agoOR, I have done this;
move the loo to where Jonathan had it but turned. Moved the pantry entrance into the utility and shortened the new kitchen wall which juts out 80cm (instead of 1m)
It's not my preference as it make the pantry smaller but I could always put a 2nd dishwasher in the utility. Does this solve the problems we are discussing or is it still too odd to have it jutting out?
whole house
kitchen / pantry / loo area
Master Suite - shortened wardrobe to make large opening between bed area and dressing area.
??? Any help most appreciated
Suzanne C
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