Kitchen design help please!

5 years ago

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We’re currently the middle of a house extension and I’m really struggling to decide on a kitchen design that best suits our open plan space. If anyone could please offer help it would be greatly appriciated. The kitchen design is the same except the way the island is going. The island on the second picture had been made the same size as the first. Also due to the floor to ceiling window we are limited to a 3.3m run along the sink wall.

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minnie101

5 years ago

Hi Sara. Aesthetically (on paper) I prefer the island sitting within the confounds of the kitchen as with option 1 however it does appear to leave a large space in the middle. I like Jonathan's idea although personally would include a small prep sink in the island so you have a view whilst preparing food

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Sara Bacon
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Sara Bacon
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Thank you so much Jonathan for taking time to draw something out. Your alternative is close to a path we did consider, but the cooker is dual fuel and moving the gas to the r/h side now is a no-no. Moreover, the external wall is on the left side (as you look at the picture) and this is where the extractor must go given the way the beams run. Practical considerations eh! Re Independent help. I agree, and we have gone down this path (with independent shops), but all the designs presented so far have been...uninspired. Just to be absolutely clear, as I think my sketch is a little confusing, in my own example there are no units proposed down the right hand side; just a f/f at the nearest end. In this respect, I'm not quite sure where the space saving would be between your own and mine, but I'm likely just being a bit dense? (Do ignore the circle on the end of the "G"; that was a draft suggestion from my wife which I didn't erase from my sketch!) Many thanks again.
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Daisy England
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Is that a Howdens plan? I know I’ve seen it before, just trying to recall which one of the big suppliers it was.

Couple of things for me on there. I don’t like a straight corner base. You cannot access the corners without getting on your hands and knees. I would always start with the corner and plan a 900 L shaped base (2 x 313 mm wide doors) so that both doors will open and you will have full access to the whole corner. These also store a huge amount of stuff.

I would also be cautious about having a drawer pack next to the corner/corner post. Depending on what you have for handles on the straight corner base unit door you might not be able to pull the drawer out to miss the handle.

A small additional point regarding the drawer pack, and this is just my personal opinion, an 800mm wide is a better size. I think once you get to a 900 and 1000 wide in the event of you pulling it open with only one handle it could get jammed because of the tendency to pull at an angle. Not so relevant for handless as you can pull in the middle.

I do realise that you're planning on having a tall bank of units which will look great so substituting the 900 L base would be difficult if you didn’t omit something else.

And one final comment .... look at other suppliers to Howdens. They aren’t the best.
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OnePlan
5 years ago
Hi Sara - who ever designed this kitchen didn’t have saftey very high on their agenda... please don’t use this. It’s not safe.
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
Thanks so much for your input. We are having handless so hopefully not suffer with those issues. We’re having the swivel pull out things in the corner unit. One design is Howdens and the other is a local independent company. We have also been to Magnet. I think they are all pretty similar. Any opions on which way to have the island.
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
One Plan what do you mean please?
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
Thanks Jonathon. Is it ok not to have window in the kitchen?
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OnePlan
5 years ago
Well seating people behind a hob is dangerous - the DW is a trip hazard between the hob and sink and there’s no set down space for hot things coming out of the oven. That’s the three that jump out immediately...
hope that helps !
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
Anyone have any thoughts on the island at all?
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
Sorry about the amateur island haha would this work?
Jonathan
5 years ago
Having a sink in front of a window is a bit of a old fashioned idea.
But if you are going to change the plan you need to do it quickly
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OnePlan
5 years ago
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In addition to Jonathan’s comment ... And it ought to be done with the help of a credible professional. One who actually puts your safety first !

I know this advise is a bit late for you Sara - sorry ! But for others that may be reading this thread with interest - but aren’t quite at this stage yet - things to note from this are that most builders don’t like ( and therefore charge more for ) last min changes - so it’s always a good idea to plan ahead - ie sort the kitchen design when the extension is still at plan stage -rather than when the builder is on site. This way they [the builders ] can price the job knowing exactly where they need to provide plumbing, electrics and vents for the kitchen layout. This should keep the price to as agreed.

Good designers - like good builders - aren’t available at the drop of a hat - they get booked up a few weeks ahead - so when you are thinking of building an extension - consider the professionals you will need and book as early as you can. In your design time you can work through all the options with your designer and then perfect the plan down to every last detail. This also gives you more time to shop around with one plan to secure the best deals.

This way your build will have a better chance at going smoothly.
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OnePlan has all the points but as we seen many times people prefer paying half price to cowboys and thinking how expensive the other guy was.
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
The problem is where the kitchen window is we have a 3ft drop to the garden and not enough length in the garden to put steps down without losing a lot of lawn. Otherwise we would have gone with a large opening of bifold across there. I don’t really know what to do was hoping to get some advice but if anything it’s confused me even more. I’m so completely stressed and this just tipping me over the edge
Sara Bacon
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5 years ago
May I add our builders are fantastic and we waited over a year for them
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I prefer the first option. Better for cooking both on the hob and keeping an eye on things in the oven. No trip hazzard if the dishwasher is open. And you get better view too when you're cooking. :)

My only concern is that there is a beam right above the hob so you'll need to plan carefully how to duct the extractor fan out.
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Hi Sara - lots of advice from different people can be good thing but can also cause confusion - my advice would to have a site visit from a professional designer who would give you safe ideas/options which you can chose from - having your builder their at the same time would enable you, the builder and the designer to work together to give you the best design. Feel free to call me if you need any help - 07495601661.

Good luck! Georgie

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