5 bed or 4 bed - and what master/en-suite layout?
Hi all,
We are currently waiting on our planning permission and have been fiddling with our plans as ever!
Some of you may recall a number of threads where we've had some great advice getting to the application stage. We also worked with OnePlan to design our downstairs layout which we love.
One little niggle that remains is the dilemma between the 5 bed plans we have submitted or tweaking them down to a 4 bed that allows for a more luxurious master and en-suite. This would help budget wise too as we would leave the existing bathroom as is. I can feel us moving more towards the 4 bed option at the moment (despite previously being adamant we wanted 5). Looks like Grandma is getting the sofa bed! ;-)
Attached below is the 5 bed plan and then a version I have hashed up by swapping over the 'bed no.5' with the bathroom so we can make it into a master en-suite (and still keep a bath with a view).
I still need to add the door for the master to this plan. None of these changes should affect the planning app which would be ideal as they are only internal changes.
However we cant help feel that its such a large space (master + bathroom) that there may be a better layout - maybe with a walk in wardrobe area or something else we cant see. Views are to the rear so worth keeping in mind.
We'd welcome any ideas you lovely lot may have and as always thank you in advance!
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Ellie
4 years agoobobble
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Comments (8)Hi quick sketch attached which hopefully will get you thinking on non standard options to avail of the triple aspect and views. The bed is centred on the West facing window, so even though there isn't symmetry in the rest of the room, balance is created, focused on the bed. I've shown a freestanding headboard behind the bed - something along these lines....there are design options available which means no need for a bedside locker to the side. I've stolen a small amount of space from the adjacent bedroom (sorry kids!) & pushed the entrance door back into the hall slightly. There is no door to ensuite, but the curved wall which becomes part of the shower creates an entrance & cuts of what you don't want to see (the wc) but allows light in, views out to and from the North. This curve also creates a natural line to change floor covering - say from carpet to tile. Theres approx 5m of wardrobe tucked under the eaves with curved ends (if budget will allow!) and also His & Hers drawer sets either side of entrance door....See MoreHelp, Master Suite and Layout
Comments (6)You might be able to do something like the first pic? It might just work with the entrance door position? What is the exact measurement to the line? I don't think the room is wide enough for something like the 2nd option. I also like Jonathan's idea though which gives a lot of storage...See MoreLuxurious en-suite bathroom OR Walk in wardrobe and small en-suite.
Comments (7)It really comes down to how many clothes you have and how much space you need to store them, along with where you prefer to get dressed and how you use your ensuite - obviously no point having double sink if you never share the bathroom, but if you're brushing your teeth while the other half is doing their thing in the next sink then this bigger ensuite might work better for you. It all depends on how you want to live, how much stuff you have and where you want to store it. I've created a checklist that helps with a lot of the foundational decision making that you need to make when you're planning a redesign project, so you might find this useful. You can get it plus a few guidance emails here: https://bit.ly/2P1quQ6 Hope this helps, Jane, i-architect.co.uk...See Morehillfly
4 years ago
Daisy England
4 years agolast modified: 4 years ago
Suzanne C
4 years agoDo you plan to have a double bed in each room including your master? Having a 4 bedroom house, can give you the space to have a super king in your master bedroom which would balance the space out.
Going with the 4 bedroom idea and having a larger master en-suite - it feels like there is a lot of empty unusable corridor space. I think this could be tweaked to make it a fabulous space...Just a brief look at your space, you have 3 wardrobes - could you make the middle one a door into the en-suite, allowing you to have a larger rectangle walk in shower opposite the bath.
You could have also have drawers / dressing table on the wall as you come into the bedroom.
Think about where the door to the master bedroom would be as it would ideally be balanced around the windows in the corridor. Presuming the windows are fixed. Could bedroom 2 have the door where the 5 bedroom layout is allowing more space for your bedroom door?
The A/C cupboard - do you need it? Could you make it wider and smaller depth or a wardrobe for yourselves?
It's a little difficult without measurements to work it all out...This is an example of the idea I suggested above.
(We are towards the end of renovating our place and we changed it from 5 bed to a 4 but added an en-suite into each room. We don't miss the useless little box room!)hillfly
4 years agoThanks everyone for all your thoughts so far.
We're a family of 5 so 4 beds would be fully occupied for a good few years yet - the 5th would be a convenient guest room but not absolutely necessary.
Like your idea Suzanne C - I've tried to mock something up which I think is what you meant?A very luxurious master that would be! Lots of storage options and room for a super king bed.
I've also added a scale - unfortunately I don't have a version of the plans with room dimensions.
Suzanne C
4 years agohillfly
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4 years agoHi Suzanne,
I've spent a few hours having a play with your bed 4 idea. It's not really working for us moving the bed so I think we prefer current proposal here and that has the benefit of needing less work so will help the budget but thanks for the idea.
I've also tried your second suggestion moving the en-suite. That didn't work as well either but it did lead me to think that to maximise storage and to break up the corridor we should put the door to the master just outside the bathroom (we may have to nudge the hall window right a bit).The image is a bit rough but gives you the gist. I also moved the sink across so we could get a double sink on the other wall maybe and that allows for a longer shower too.
That's the best 4 bed layout I think we've come up with so far.
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