Has anyone used outdoor grade porcelain as a patio?

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I’ve heard how good it is, hardy and non slip. Our deck is rotting so we need to replace it. I love patterned Moroccan style tiles but OH doesn’t and we have Indian Sandstone elsewhere but fancied something different. We particularly like the wood effect paving, so it looks like a deck but much hardier. The area is only about 13 metres sq. Here’s a couple of pics to show what I mean. Does it look TOO fake?

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Sonia
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yesterday
The first slab is down eeeek!
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E D
last month
Ooh nice, planning a new patio, Sonia. 👍

Generally I’m not a great fan of having materials which are designed to look like something else.

However, I must say I like the way the tiles look in your second photo.

Perhaps because it’s not so much a ‘copy of’, but rather ’inspired by’.

Love its warm, yet modern and fresh look.
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Martin
last month
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We're considering the same. Got concrete effect tiles in our kitchen and considering going with wood effect porcelain/paving on the patio, rather like the 1st photo. Both look good in the photo but they often do! Have you got links to those two tiles if you don't mind me asking?
Sonia
Original Author
last month
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Yes I know what you mean E D, but I like a wood look but not wood simple because it doesn’t last long, but some of the planks look too fake. I also prefer the darker hues but OH likes the pale slightly grey look, we can’t win!

Martin, we saw these planks in a tile showroom in Letchworth this morning. They are by Al Fresco and called Kenwood Oak, but I was scrolling through Pinterest and found the same picture above but at Wickes! The name is slightly different, see below, but I think they’re the same tiles! Wickes are out of stock online, but may have them in store? I took screen shots for you as I’ve no idea how to share links.
edwardallen
last month
We’ve used ‘limed oak’ composite decking by millboard for a bench seat on our retaining wall which you can get from London Stone (https://www.londonstone.co.uk/millboard-composite-decking/decking/limed-oak/). It’s meant to be more durable than wood, still feels like it to me.

We’ve also got porcelain paving on the patio and porcelain wall cladding rather than render both again from london stone.
Sonia
Original Author
last month
Edwardallen that looks very smart and elegant. Thank you for the pics. We’ve visited several tile places and saw a beautiful patterned porcelain in various shades of grey and are just waiting for a sample tile. It might be the one IF it looks as good in real life as it does in the picture! Can I ask was the porcelain 20mm outdoor version or thinner?
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colourhappy
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How exciting Sonia. My only concern is that is would not absorb water like stone does and therefore could take a long time to dry out and may be slippery? I have seen composite decking that looks really good though.
edwardallen
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The paving on the floor is Gea Porcelain packing 900x450x20mm. (https://www.londonstone.co.uk/porcelain-paving/luxury-italian/gea/)

@colourhappy, can’t comment on what the composite decking (which isn’t porcelain) is like to walk on as it’s our seat.

The porcelain is great however and not slippery when wet, but that’s certainly not the case for all, even same brand. We went to the outdoor showroom (fortunately in the rain) and you can get a sense for how non-slip each style really is as well as how the colour can look quite different in rain / sun 🌞
Sonia
Original Author
last month
It is exciting colourhappy! Thing is I want something a bit different which is in my head but nobody sells it lol. Outdoor grade porcelain is low slip, which is graded by an R rating, and it will pull your flip flops off your feet if you try to slide on it....😂. I am going to have two flower borders at either end so hopefully that will take the excess water during a heavy rain storm. I’ve researched composite decking and there have been problems, so I will avoid it as flooring.
Thank you for the link Edward, I will have a look.
edwardallen
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You’re welcome. Same company also has porcelain flooring in wood effect as do many others https://www.londonstone.co.uk/porcelain-paving/wood-effect/

Good luck 😀
E D
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I think porcelain is a great choice.

I’m sure you’ve researched this already, but since drying out was mentioned, do make sure the patio will have the correct slope/ fall.

We’ve had a patio tiled with ceramic tiles and the guys installing it got that wrong twice with standing water after every (tropical) shower.

In the end we decided to install a roof over the patio for it not to get wet. 😞😊
Sonia
Original Author
last month
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Thank you E D I’ll make sure there’s a slight slope. Choosing the paving is the hardest bit but I’m waiting on some samples. Tiles never look the same as the glossy brochures! A roof sounds a good idea! 😊
E D
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Handy article on patio fall?

https://www.minsterpaving.co.uk/how-to/how-much-fall-should-a-patio-have/
Martin
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Interested to see what you go for Sonia, agree about tiles in pictures, can be very deceiving, especially as there's usually tiny/no grout lines on show
Sonia
Original Author
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Thank you Martin, I’m just waiting on the last sample tile. It’s dark grey and light grey pattern, very subtle maroccany (is that a word?) which looks fab in the picture in the showroom. I hope I like it, because so far I’m not keen on any of them! 😂
Martin
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Is it grey wood or concrete style? I've ordered some wood ones
Sonia
Original Author
last month
Concrete style. In fact I cannot find similar anywhere else, online or in person. So I’m praying I will love it! 🙏. A bit like these below but a darker grey (These are wall tiles). What wood ones did you order?
Martin
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I came across this place https://www.starelstones.co.uk/wood-effect-porcelain?page=2 Not 20mm thick like paving but can still be laid outside
Sonia
Original Author
last month
Thank you Martin.
Eileen M
last month
I really like the tiles, doesn’t look fake at all. We need to redo our very small patio (we estimate it’s 40 years old) and intended paving. However I wasn’t aware until recently there is composite decking available which needs little maintenance and is much longer lasting ( more expensive initially). If you haven’t already considered it may be worthwhile checking out.
belindacarrie
last month
I have porcelain paving in my small garden. The first time it was laid incorrectly - no fall to speak of. This meant when it rained there was standing water . It was light coloured and so was filthy most of the time . The whole lot was lifted and replaced with a mid grey paving with a greater than recommended fall. We added stones and planting and did not abut the paving to the garden wall. The first makeover is the pale tiles and the grey as it is now. Use an expert in laying porcelain
Sonia
Original Author
last month
Thank you Eileen. I did research composite decking and it doesn’t seem as long lasting as manufacturers make out. Then I found out Trek, one of the top manufacturers, is being sued in the US by many customers as the deck (the US love their decks!) starts to flake after 10 years and certainly doesn’t last 25 years as claimed. Put me right off! However, porcelain is so tough so I’m going down that road.

Belinda thank you for sharing your pictures and information. Your second choice looks like a grey limestone, very beautiful.
Eileen M
last month
Thanks for the advice Sonia. We won’t be going there either.
Sonia
Original Author
last month
We have made our choice of this outdoor porcelain tile 600x600 and 20mm thick. Work will commence in a few weeks 😊
Anthony
27 days ago
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Great choice, sorry I’m late, just make sure you have a very gentle slope away and you’ll be fine, I’ve 1200x600x20 on a floating system and I’ve no grout so the rain just drains through the 2mm gap, mine is laid totally flat.

they will stay cleaner longer and will not go green, just a power wash every couple of months has them like new! Look great even in the winter months.

lovely like btw :-)

draper do a 600mm wide foam brush that just drags any standing water away, sort of like the thing you see the guys using on holidays round the pools

this guy

https://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/products/draper-floor-squeegee-600mm.html?sku=959780&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3_ui5PXP6gIV1YBQBh1lLw9ZEAQYASABEgIKxfD_BwE

and the pole for it

https://www.uktoolcentre.co.uk/products/draper-broom-or-mop-handle-13m.html
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Sonia
Original Author
27 days ago
Thank you Anthony! Some great advice. We used to use those squeegee brushes at the animal shelter I worked at so I’ll get one. I’m having flower borders either end so will ensure the builder slants it a little towards one of them. I hope it will look amazing 🙏 as I’ve never seen such a tile anywhere else it’s all very new! 👍
E D
27 days ago
Make sure the patio falls (slopes) away from the house if it’s attached or very near to the house.
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Sonia
Original Author
26 days ago
Thank you E D, yes i‘ve told my brother to do this. Just with the sample tile we’ve noticed how the water just sits on the tile. Bonus is despite water pooling on it, it is still completely non slip, amazing! Tiles on order and brother will be over to lay them once he’s finished his current job. Exciting!
Sonia
Original Author
9 days ago
Work on the patio starts tomorrow. Decking being taken up, then porcelain tiles laid. Fingers crossed! 🤞🤞🤞
E D
9 days ago
Cool. I’m sure it will turn out great, Sonia!
Victoria
8 days ago
Looking forward to seeing it
Christian Meikle
8 days ago
You wont regret it. We laid porcelain paving a few months ago and its brilliant. Easy to clean, nothing seems to mark it, tough. The only downside is that it takes longer to dry and water sits on top of it.
Sonia
Original Author
8 days ago
Christian what did you do about drainage? Was the paving slanted away from house, or did you have a drainage rill? I may go for the rill as it means I can have the paving higher up so no step down.
Sonia
Original Author
8 days ago
Decking is no more! 😂😂😂
Christian Meikle
8 days ago
The Patio is sloping away from the house, which is the main way water drains. I have a small gap between house and patio which gravel which will allow water to drain through (when I have put the gravel in).
debi_d1
6 days ago
Hi Sonia, who’s doing your garden? We’re looking for some recommendations for our tiny patio (3 by 3.5m) which needs re-doing.
Jon L
6 days ago
Just be very careful on the supposed R value for slip resistance or ramp test value. The recommended test from the Health and Safety Executive is the Pendulum test and for something with a 5 degree slope that pendulum slip value needs to be 50+ to be safe when wet. Add some algae and other contamination on top of tile and its slip resistance will fall dramatically. If you have children who like to run then again you need very high slip resistance. This site explains it fairly well and in lay terms with main warning on R values as below. Alternatively research the HSE site at https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/geis2.htm

WARNING - it is often the case that the ‘R Rating’ found on flooring leaflets, websites and what is says on the packaging are often ‘over specified’ !

FloorSlip have tested many flooring types using the HSE approved Pendulum Test and found large differences between the floor samples we test and the ‘supposed’ R Ratings; the largest quantity are foreign imports which account for many UK tiles sold. Pendulum Test Values (PTV) of 40+ have been advertised when when the floor surface was wet - but only achieved just 12-15 PTV when Pendulum Floor Testing was carried out. The HSE expects a MINIMUM of 36 PTV when a floor is wet and horizontal and note this value must be adjusted UP for floor slopes by approximately 2 PTV for each 1 degree of slope (A 5 degree slope would require 36PTV + 10 PTV for the slope or 46 PTV when WET)
Sandi Robinson
6 days ago

This is my budget priced porcelain patio using the Ikea porcelain deck tiles that sit in little plastic trivets. You can take them up and clean them and underneath with little bother. Very hardwearing and economical make over
Sonia
Original Author
6 days ago
@debi_d1 - it is being laid by my brother who is a builder. He is snowed under with work to be honest. He is based in north Herts.
Sonia
Original Author
6 days ago
@Jon L - thank you for your detailed technical info. I tested it out myself during the torrential rain we had a couple of weeks ago. Even with surface water on it whilst raining it was completely non slip. I couldn’t move my foot at all.
Sonia
Original Author
6 days ago
@Sandi Robinson - that looks fabulous! Love a patterned tile.
Sandi Robinson
6 days ago
Look forward to seeing your new porcelain patio!
Sonia
Original Author
5 days ago
My baby bro wacking down the Type 1 creating a base for the mortar and slabs.
Gabby
5 days ago
Oooooo!!! That’s exciting to see you getting the decking replaced after all your trials with it over the last few years! Can’t wait to see the finished product!

We still need to get the garden and driveway sorted! But get a puppy next month!! (Am sooooooooo excited)
Gabby
5 days ago
I’m sure it’s somewhere but can’t find it currently - what tiles are you using? We’re looking at getting porcelain for our new patio too! (When we work out a garden design! )
Sonia
Original Author
5 days ago
A puppy is much more exciting Gabby! What breed? The tiles I’m using are above but here it is again. Outdoor grade porcelain. I’m a tad nervous as I hope they are going to look good!
Gabby
5 days ago
Ooooo these are gorgeous! For some reason when I saw these I thought someone else had posted them! (My brain has clearly switched off for the night! - good job I’m not at work)

Which brand are they? I wonder if all porcelain are as non slip as each other... hmmm 🤔

Puppy is a fox red lab 😍
Sonia
Original Author
4 days ago
My sister has a black lab. He’s nearly 3 now and an absolute darling 🐶

Most outdoor grade porcelain is very non slip (goes by R Rating) but best thing to do is buy a tile or get a decent size sample of your favourite and try it out at home. Outdoor porcelain is also much thicker, 20mm rather than 10mm, which means less chance of breaking. Apparently you can lay indoor porcelain outside but it’s R rating will be lower and it won’t be as hardwearing. Indian sandstone is also a good choice if you want a slightly more rustic look. There that’s your lesson for the day! 😂. Good luck with puppy pup 🐶
Sonia
Original Author
4 days ago
Sorry Gabby forgot to tell you the make. It’s by Ceramica Impex and it’s called Gemme. I couldn’t find similar anywhere else but Apex Grange in Welwyn Garden City, Herts.

Gabby
4 days ago
Thank you! I wasn't sure whether certain brands were better and to watch out for, but will do some research on R numbers (not the pandemic kind) before we get round to choosing tiles! 🙂

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