Thoughts / ideas for our proposed kitchen diner extension
Hi all, came here hoping for a bit of advice and outside the box thinking!
We are just after some thoughts and ideas about our first floor kitchen diner extension, we intend to remove the wall highlighted in yellow and extend out by 4m and across the back of the house (approx. 9.5m) as shown (very roughly!!!) in red. The roof will be a flat roof. The reasoning behind selecting 4m to build out to was due to making the space in front of the utility room usable.
The dining room shown in the original plan is no longer a dining room by the way - its more a snug.
I've positioned the kitchen at the rear of the room as it just seemed the best place for it so minimise wasted dead space and also allow us to sit close to natural light on the sofa or at the dining table.
I have placed the dining table and the sofa on the side they are, due to I feel we have more space for a large sofa on the kitchen side (although it might get a bit annoying having the dining table the furthest away from the kitchen!).
I think we would like to try and go with 8m sliding doors, but happy to consider go with bi-folds (or even 2 sets of bi-folds with a dividing wall in the middle)
We'd like a wood burner, but again, I'm unsure that's the best place for it (regulations etc).
We intend to put in a roof lantern.
The room is SW facing so I'm also a bit concerned that it could get very hot very quickly with all that glass.
Many thanks in advance to anyone that can give us some more ideas!
thanks,
Dave
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davesheff
3 years agoThanks Greg, yep the structural engineer has already made the calcs, we can get away without a pier in the center of the room and have 2 piers at either side (which I should probably draw in!)....
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rinked
3 years agoSuggestion:
Instead of adding only, I've moved the toilet, creating wardrobe space in the hall and a grander view towards the living area. I've kept a utility back door, as a 'winter entrance' is great. If your house is detached, please go ahead and do the full width extension, but then do create a side entrance to the utility (think muddy shoes, hanging laundry outside). The utility is also accessible from the hallway for practical reasons. The fireplace is an insert seethrough type, excuse me as I have no idea what the english word for it is (I'm dutch). The box in the middle is a pillar.
I bet the layout could be even better than what I have come up with. This was just a quick one. :)davesheff thanked rinkedrinked
3 years agoFull width extension and side entry. Tons of storage space with the tall units wrapped around the utility wall, plus cupboards next to the dining table. Also enlarged the utility.
davesheff thanked rinkeddavesheff
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agothanks for that! great ideas, something I haven't really thought about, the house is detached but we only have access down the left side, so an option could be to shorten the width of the extension and create a 'winter door' down the right. I have had a go at mapping out what you have suggested and come up with this idea. Unsure where the sofa and dining table should go though! also, we wouldn't have as much kitchen storage space...definitely something to think about though!
I dont think we need the pillars in the middle according to our structural engineer.
Also, where you have placed the W/C, we have a new boiler and cylinder system there so that probably wouldnt work, so ive taken space up in the garage for it.
thanks!rinked
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3 years agohi!
I've already had the structural engineer calcs done, and they suggest we don't need a pillar, however I will double check this with them?
I had a think about moving the existing utility, toilet and hall around, however as these rooms have already been done I'm reluctant to start moving them around due to the mess and the additional cost.
Based on this I've revised our design.
I'm not sure about the chimney, but due to where we want the kitchen we wouldnt be able to use the old ones, a wood burner isnt something we have to have, its just a nice to have, and im not 100% where to put it yet or where it will be allowed to go!
The staircase goes over the toilet as well.
thanks for all your input on this by the way! got me thinking!
rinked
3 years agoThe former chimney pipe used (imagine the pipe diagonally behind a retention wall, with some strategically placed niches, for example) between dining and seating zones. Toilet and utility in current position. Kitchen in a bright area, conversation open to seating area. Dining in the 'darker' corner, as you'd already have a breakfast bar and dining is in the evenings anyway, just hang some fabulous lamps over it. Tons of storage space against utility wall, might be bookcases, add a comfy chair in front and enjoy the garden view from just about every seat in the room.
davesheff thanked rinkeddavesheff
3 years agothanks for that!
i've redesigned the layout, i've put shelves and a pantry in where the old internal chimney breast was (the wall against the utility room).
I agree, it does look a nicer layout, however - what about a TV?!
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