Hello, I am looking to reconfigure the ground floor of my house.

3 years ago

I have a nice patio and views. the down stairs toilet is in the middle between the kitchen and the dining room. i would like to extend the kitchen or dining room into the toilet area and include the hall way at that end to gain space in one of the main rooms. i would then use a glass door into the rest of the hallway for extra light.

the garden is not very big so i am reluctant to extend into the garden. there is some limited space to the side. its a typical country plot. As its not square. Any suggestions much appreciated.

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Mandy Ross

3 years ago

How about having an open plan kitchen dining room and putting the downstairs loo under the stairs?

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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
sorry, i should of said - where can the downstairs WC go? without losing the study or compromising the utility too much. any suggestions would be most welcome.
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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
Thank you Mandy, i know Kitchen diners are very on trend. i do think it would look lovely. however, i like to leave the mess out of site whilst we have our meal. i will give it further consideration. i would welcome any other ideas.
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The Kitchen Lady UK
3 years ago
Hi Amelia,
Sounds like a great plan, I think that is a great way to open your house up.

The smallest space your new toilet can take up is 90cm width and then 750 between the front of the toilet to the front of the sink.

It could be a corner sink and a very compact toilet so it could be around 500 toilet + 750 = 1250mm.

There also may need to be some floorspace for a new stud wall to partition it off which is around 150mm.

Now it's just about walking around the utility and under stairs and office and seeing where this 900x1250 space can tuck in.

If you can keep it near-ish the main sewer and upstairs toilet, it will save costs but macinators are for putting toilets anywhere if this isn't possible.

If you'd like help drawing it to scale or bouncing around the pros and cons, feel free to get in touch www.coveykitchens.co.uk

Good luck
Emily X
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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
Thank you -
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tamp75
3 years ago
If you don’t want open plan, you need to consider whether the extra space would be more useful in the kitchen or dining room. The other option is to have double doors (maybe pocket doors)between the dining room or kitchen do you have the option of opening up the space or closing off the mess.
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rinked
3 years ago
Hope this can be of help. You don't need to extend.

Moved toilet against utility wall, using the old utility doorway to create a niche for a basin. New utility doorway in what might be a loadbearing wall. Closed off dining room door, so you'd have some extra space for coats and such. Created an opening from dining to kitchen and placed a galley kitchen.
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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
Thank you to both tamp75 and rinked. i was hoping to utilise the wasted hall space where all the doors are. its a dark area leading to the dining room, WC, and kitchen.

in the corner of the utility room is the boiler. so the niche for a basin couldn’t go there as access will be required to the boiler service door. i have wondered if a Wc could go along the wall of the utility room either a joining the study or ajoining the hall. with the door off the hall. is there enough space for this? Also i am not keen on a Macerator so can the Utility plumbing be easily adapted.

its such a shame both the family bathroom and downstairs WC are in the middle of the best aspect. the Ensuite is in the area to the side of the house between the dining room and lounge. many thanks for any help.
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rinked
3 years ago
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At home we have a very narrow toilet, so I used the thickness of the wall as niche, which was enough to install a reasonably sized sink (I don't like those supertiny sinks). Just use 20mm waterproof ply to close off the doorway, so the utility wall remains somewhat smooth. And remember, even boilers can be moved.

With a glazed door going to the kitchen I don't think the hall will remain dark.

Macerator? Don't use one. I guess it's a matter of opening up that side path to connect toilet to main soil pipe, but better have that checked. As most work is in the kitchen corner of the house, better not pull open the entire house.

Personally, I would not sacrifice that study and I like a decent sized bootroom, hence why I used the spot I drew it in.
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Nest Estimating Ltd
3 years ago
Hi Amelia, once you have decided on a layout, we can provide you with a budget cost estimate. The budget cost estimate provides a detailed breakdown of works and expenses as well as highlighting potential areas where you can save money. If this is something of interest please send the plans and photos to hello@nestestimating.co.uk and we can provide you with a quote
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Wumi
3 years ago
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joannemorrison99
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3 years ago
Thank you rinked, i agree we do benefit from a good size utility and the study although small is used for working from home a couple of days a week. i can see the advantage of the loo being on the outside wall. its just all the wasted hall space between doors.. its also nice to have a door from the kitchen to the utility and door to out side. Regarding kitchen diners, is it really out of date to be seperate? ideally i would have just one door between the kitchen and diner.
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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
Wumi, thank you. I do like your design, this gives me a nice big kitchen. although i would prefer the door to the utility to be off the kitchen. it would be a very narrow WC unless i took a little bit away from the study which is already very small. The outside door to the Utility would need to stay as there is a outside chimney stack preventing the door from being moved over. the toilet area width would be only 63cm. and not room for a basin.

l love the idea of the WC being off the main hallway and the kitchen would have room for an island.
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rinked
3 years ago
I don't see it as wasted hallway space, as storage is always nice.

But here are some layouts that might help you decide:

(and just imagine the niche is flat on the utility side)
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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
Ringed thank you so much. i like the middle one very much. i will still have the under stairs cupboard for storage.. which is your favourite. would you agree the current layout needs changing?
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rinked
3 years ago
My favourite is the first one I posted, as I like the utility to be a good size and decent storage. With a closed kitchen that will be the one on the right (kitchen layout yet to be determined).
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joannemorrison99
Original Author
3 years ago
Thank you rinked, your help is very much appreciated. i agree the utility is a good size whiich would be missed. decisions decisions!
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