Planning permission vs Permitted Development

7 years ago

This is not really a design decision but am hoping the good folks (from the UK) can help me on this matter anyway. I applied for a 4.5m extension via permitted development (under the prior approval for larger extensions that allow you to extend up to 6m until 2019). This got rejected because my neighbour complained that she would feel a sense of enclosure as her other neighbour has a 4m extension. She said she would be happy with no more than 3.3m. My other neighbour also has a 4m extension so it seems unfair that I can't do 4.5m because because one home doesn't want to extend.

In any case I wonder if I applied via planning permission instead of permitted development would I be able to get a different outcome? The other homes have 4m and there really is not much difference between 3.3m and 4.5m. The LPA have already said that 4.5m does not cause any loss of light etc and the only reason for refusal of the permitted development was the sense of enclosure.

I've since started work on the 3.3m but it is bugging me that if I just wait 2 months I might be able to get the 4.5m, unless the advice is that the council will probably just reject it.

Any thoughts? Once my 3.3m is done what would the cost be to further extend it to 4.5m if the LPA approve a planning permission?

Thanks!

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7 years ago
Unless you are familiar with dealing with the planning department, it is worth considering appointing a local professional who is used to submitting planning applications

Contact the planning officer who dealt with the permitted development application (if you don't have a name there will be a reference number- explain you have a query about the project stating the reference number and there's a good chance you will be passed to the correct officer).

The planning officer will not tell you whether an application will be approved but they might tell you if you have no chance - ask them if it is worth submitting a planning application or whether it is a waste of time.

If the officer suggests it might be worth an application you can then decide whether to proceed - your neighbour will object again but the planning officers will have to determine whether there is policy to support an objection and refusal.

Afraid there are few guarantees with planning, if an application is refused you can still build your permitted development extension but this time with the knowledge (and piece of mind) that it is as large as you could have.
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Rob
7 years ago
Did your local authority refuse your 4.5m extension? If so, why don't you appeal it? If the neighbour has 4m and you say there is no issue with you extending 4.5m then it sounds like an appeal would be your way forward.
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User
7 years ago
Does your authority operate a pre-planning advice process? If yes, engage an architect to have that conversation. It will be a few hundred pounds well spent.
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User
7 years ago
If you can show a precedence for such an extension, as your neighbour went larger, then that will be on your side. The planning department would have to consider that they granted one, so refusing another two doors down would be unfair.

I would personally make an appointment with the planning department, take along your plans, and pictures of the larger extension and ask them if they might be inclined to grant permission.

It's best to be humble and unassuming, let them take the lead, and don't go in all guns blazing trying to back them in to a corner!!

Basically just ask nicely. You may be pleasantly surprised.
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Raiyan Bari
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7 years ago
I've taken that advice and dropped a note to them to ask. My builder is currently working on the basis that its a 3.3m extension and has laid the foundation but I have asked him to not do the walls and move onto the loft and other internal work to give the council some time to make the decision, I hope. Worse comes to worse I'll get my builder to do 3.3m and at a later date change to 4.5m should I get approval later.

To be honest this house is a 5-10 year home as we dont plan to stay here permanently so the resale value of a 3.3m vs 4.5m extension will not be huge (only extra 70 sq ft) I think.

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