Does this layout look weird?

8 years ago

I really struggling to know what to put on this wall. The cupboard to the left is for the boiler (I’m a bit concerned it will probably end up being a couple of cms over to the right due to the boiler positioning, so might not line up perfectly with the lower cupboard, but hey ho!) The opposite wall has lots of wall cabinets and tower units so I want to keep this side more open, with oak shelving and a glass cabinet would be handy for glassware, as well as looking nice lit up. Excuse the dodgy sketch, I’ve been trying to think of ideas but can’t work out how to lay things out... the lower unit to the left is a small breakfast bar coming towards the middle of the room so will probably have a couple of pendant lights over that. The sink basin is over the middle unit, with drainer going under the boiler cupboard. Any ideas?

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8 years ago

Hi, Hannah, yes, it was the sink and the new design looks much nicer. I agree, with the shelf idea over the sink. It's a lot more balanced now. Can't wait to see the finished pics.

I'm not sure how your breakfast bar end is going to be constructed. Does it have a corner cupboard coming forwards ?

The new render shows a 400 cupboard that doesn't line up with the one above it, so i'd have that amended. Also, you could have another cupboard on the end and fit in a glass cabinet by the looks of it.

Something like this --------it was a quick twiddle!

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Melissa S
8 years ago
Looks a bit strange to me I'm afraid. What about a cupboard to match the boiler on the other side of the sink for symmetry and a plate rack or open shelves between them and over the sink?
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
Yes I was wondering about shelves over the sink, between the two wall cabinets, but wasn’t sure if that looked strange with more shelves on the other side as well? Stressing over it now as I’m supposed to be sorting the final plans and ordering it all at Ikea tomorrow!

Both wall cupboards shown are 60x100cm. They also do 60x40 or 60x60 so alternatively I could have a higher cupboard in between...
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Jonathan
8 years ago
I think the glass cabinet will likely steam up from the sink. I would have shelves above the sink instead.
I notice there are no drawers and unless elsewhere in the kitchen I would add some.
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
So would you suggest having the glass cabinet elsewhere, or not having one at all? The other side is all drawers. This side is pull out bins, under sink pull out and dishwasher.
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8 years ago
When the kitchen fitter fits the cupboard around the boiler, can it not be made to fit and line up with what's below. Would you see what's below if there is a breakfast bar over the cupboard.

Don't like the random glass cupboard and agree with Jonathan, not over the sink. I'd put the shelves there.
I have to have things lined up, so I made the shelves 1 & 1/2 cupboards wide. I also positioned them so that linear wise they're in the middle of the boiler cupboard. If you're putting pendants over the island on the left, then make sure they don't get in the way of the boiler cupboard door opening. You may be better off with one larger light in the middle of it, away from the cupboard door.
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OnePlan
8 years ago
So how is the maintenance person going to get to the boiler ? Is the breakfast bar being built strong enough to climb on ?
Jonathan
8 years ago
I think the initial statement said the breakfast bar was on the left but in fact is on the other end near the door (so no problems for the repair guy)
MATH is right that you should hang the boiler cupboard then work out where the base cabinets will go, ensure they line up and use a filler at the end if necessary. Personally I would put the DW under the boiler so that when emptying it the open door is less in the way.
Personally I think a simpler look is better and would only have shelves over the sink. If you really need a cupboard then don’t have shelves and put a cupboard over the breakfast bar. Because of the sink I wouldn’t have a glass cupboard on this run- if you want additional lighting put it under the cabinets or/and on top of the wall cabinets. I would only put pendant lights over the breakfast bar if you have satisfied yourself that they are not in the way of the cupboard.
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
Sorry to have confused things, think I was half asleep when I typed that last night... the breakfast bar is actually on the right, so no issues with it being in the way of the boiler.

And yes, good point that it shouldn’t actually be an issue to line up the boiler cupboard with the unit below if they do it first. So perhaps I need to ditch the glass cabinet altogether...

The shelves I’m looking at are made to measure so can fit in whatever gap needed.
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
So bearing in mind the breakfast bar is actually on the right, not the left, with two pendant lights over it, any further suggestions what I could do with this wall? It’s the last decision I seem to be incapable of making with this kitchen and it’s going to start holding everything up soon. It’s driving me a bit bonkers!
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8 years ago
I think something like this would be much nicer. A wall of units like this should really follow a line of symmetry.
User
8 years ago
And definitely forget the glazed unit.
User
8 years ago
Alternatively ... instead of the shelves you could do a shallow lift up door cuobaord above the sink and this could be glazed. I have attached a pic of my kitchen to give you an idea of this cupboard formation.
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
Thanks Gerty Welty. Those designs do look much better, although as the breakfast bar is quite short I wanted to avoid having a unit above it... how about shelves over the sink, as you’ve placed them, with a blank space for wall art or clock or something? Still not very symmetrical though...
User
8 years ago
Ok. well I would place the shelves like this then.
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8 years ago
Having looked at this a lot, i've decided that you really need to see it in context with the whole kitchen. Especially what's on the left.

The boiler cupboard troubles me, as, it's more than likely going to be quite a deep cupboard. Deeper than some 'average' wall cupboards. Ours is both deep and tall, in fact, there's only 22cm under it and it's nearly 1000mm high with the plynth. Luckily it's in the corner like this one, but it throws everything off balance,

I presume the kitchen is like this then, with the breakfast bar on the right. However, you (again i presume ), will have stools right by the door?
I think you need exact dimensions of the boiler cupboard and where it is from ceiling to counter top in order to get a proper visual. The sink looks wrong.
Also, bear in mind the boiler cupboard depth as it could be deeper than the average cabinet and so you need the depth too, do the cupboards need to be the same depth?

I'm beginning to think that the boiler cupboard should meet the counter top and that the sink should move over, and the run extended right a little.
I think in summary - boiler cupboard on counter top, move sink over and centre.
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
Really helpful comments, thank you all. Really appreciate it. I ageee the sink is part of what is wrecking the symmetry. The design appointment at Ikea this evening was actually really useful and I’ve now gone for one of their double ceramic sinks, which I think will work a lot better. This also led to a few other changes and the sink fits in a wider unit.

So this was a design we came up with in store (for some reason this picture doesn’t show the breakfast bar in the gap on the right).

MATH our boiler is also pretty big, but set a fair bit higher than yours by the sounds of it, so should still allow for a 50 gap between the worktop and bottom of cabinet. It does ideally need a 100cm high cabinet though so I’m not keen on just how high the glass cabinet would end up being in this design... so maybe 2or 3 shelves in between the two units would work better?
Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
This is the floor plan if that makes it any clearer. The door next to the breakfast bar goes into a small utility room we’re currently having made from an existing lean to. We'll probably leave that as a doorless frame so that it doesn’t impact so much on the breakfast bar seating. There will be hidden access to the corner cupboard from under the bar.

Unfortunately that 40cm cupboard to the right can’t really be made wider because of the space needed for the breakfast bar overhang, so it won’t line up perfectly, but I think I can live with this much more happily than my previous design. Plus I’d rather avoid a cupboard right over the breakfast bar as it will impact on options for pendant lights and will take up seating space. Hoping to get a couple of oak shelves to go between the cupboards. Do you think the two wall cabinets would look better with two doors as shown or just one big door?
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8 years ago
Hi Hanna, that's a lot clearer. Yes, I can see it now. I'd probably go for one door to match the units below, but i guess it could be determined by the style of kitchen. What do the doors look like?? I see what you mean about the breakfast bar and the extra cupboard. Yes it will look lovely with the pendant lighting.
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Hannah
Original Author
8 years ago
The doors will be bodbyn off white on top with grey on the bottom. The doors were only split to make the glass cupboard layout look better so I’m thinking I’ll just stick with one big door. Thanks loads for the help!
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8 years ago
I agree with you Hannah. Sounds lovely.