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Suggestions for kitchen/diner layout

11 years ago

Hi again,

We are considering moving our kitchen into the dining room and making it a kitchen/diner then using the current kitchen for storage of outdoor coats, a bike and also adding a toilet. But...

We're pretty limited with what we can do with the space we have. We have quite a large chimney breast and also a very large window (un-opening) that goes down to 70cm above floor level. I don't want anything in front of the window. We have water pipes going up the corner of the chimney breast that will be boxed in but do not take up much room.

I've drawn a plan of the room with sizes in cm. The hatched area indicates where we have a cellar underneath. The joists run from the window to the internal wall.

We've had some kitchen planners out but aren't inspired by their ideas and I was hoping someone might have some thoughts?

We'd like a dishwasher and fridge (preferable bigger than under counter) but already have a washing machine and freezer in the cellar. I'd also prefer a built in double oven at waist/head height.

Our main issue is with extraction from the hob. I think an extracting hood would be better as we wouldn't have an opening window. The logical place to put this would be in the alcove next to the window, but then it'd probably be at the furthest away from the oven? Does this matter? I was considering a downdraft extractor plus hob on the wall opposite the window and taking the ducting under the floor and out the wall next to window, but have seen mixed reviews and don't know if the distance is too far to get any suction.

Sorry for the waffling! Any suggestions would be appreciated :-)

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OnePlan
11 years ago
I've got some ideas ! - on a coffee break at the mo - very busy week ! Would you be interested in hiring an independent kitchen designer like me to work with, you so you can shop around with your own plans ?
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Jonathan
11 years ago
I think it would be great to swap the kitchen location but I think that you will devalue you house if you loose a reception.
Far better I think to put a banquette seat and table into the former kitchen.
I might consider replacing the dining room window for French doors too.
Have you considered having the chimney breast out too? (Likely £1500 job). But it would make it easier to fig the kitchen
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minnie101
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I totally agree with Jonathan tbh. If you need coat storage I think there's room elsewhere. I'd get garden storage for a bike.
Andy King
11 years ago
I agree with Jonathan that removing the chimney breast would significantly increase your options for the room. I would go one step further and look into removing the small wall which separates the kitchen and dining room; I have attached a very crude annotation to your sketch to show how this would look. I personally wouldn't go for French doors if the current back door is retained. A typical worktop height is 90cm so you could place units (a sink?) in front of the window and have a small 20cm drop to the windowsill (ideal for growing herbs). If you don't want units in front you could build a window seat (approx. 50 cm high) with storage underneath.

A good estate agent should be able to tell you if your proposals would devalue the property. If I was buying it I would see a larger kitchen/diner and downstairs toilet a plus. Your current layout doesn't give you any dedicated storage but your proposals would. There would be space to store coats in the downstairs WC and, if you place the door in the middle of the room, you could have floor-ceiling 60cm deep storage in the rear hall (shown in red). Garden storage might make more sense but if your bike is very expensive then I can see why you might wish to keep it indoors.
erica cheetham
9 years ago
I agree with many others above. Don't lose a reception room. It's very good advice to speak to an estate agent. They willingly come round and help in these kind of situations, because one day they want to sell the house for you.

In a former house I owned, I had plans approved to do extensions and fit a large garden room on the back of our house. The estate agent I invited to look at the plans stopped me from having the garden room built because I would never have got my money back on that street when selling. It was very good advice.

It's also often worth asking professional advice on improving the cellar. If it is tanked properly, and if you can make the stairs/entrance good - you can potentially greatly improve your storage options.

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