Are the other rooms currently arranged as per your plan? Is the kitchen bottom right? I would have thought it would be nearer the bathroom. I'd like to see a plan of how everything is with the room usage. Moving water sources and drains is the first port of call.

I don't like the corridor through the second bedroom, it makes furniture placement very difficult.

So, drains and water permitting, something more like this:-

What are you planning to do with the space before it opens out into the living/dining area?

this is exactly how the flat is now. love your idea though!

knocking an ensuite wall is a possibility where you mention, although there's also the possibility of squeezing an ensuite into the (massive) master bedroom 1.

thanks

I think that space will be quite dark, and I can't imagine it being used much. I think I'd put either a laundry room or another bathroom perpendicular to your current one. You could still have a wall for bookshelves, or a small corner desk?

Can we clarify what are you actually trying to achieve? The original post was just to change the En-Suite. Do you want 2 beds and 2 baths, or do you want to keep 3 beds?

Also, with regards the Fire regs.............as the Flat currently has no doorway access from the kitchen to the front, why does it need it now? I imagine this is why you may have thought about putting 3 doors in bedroom 2,

With regards the pesky wall in the middle.........wondering if that's at all amendable ie put a doorway in it? I'd definitely check that out. I can't think why you couldn't.

Just a little confused.

I think i'd be wanting to keep the 3 beds for value, but re-configure to use to the max the space as is. Thus, how about this one:-

Hi

Thanks for your comments! we can't knock that wall because its load bearing and we are in a ground floor flat so we would need party wall agreements which will cost a bomb with 3 flats above and 2 next door. we did knock the back wall into an Lshape, . though, but that was ok because it;s only holding up the roof on our extension. This rules out knocking a doorway into the bathroom from the bay room to create en en-suite, although we could plonk one in the corner of that bay-bedroom.

Would like to keep 3 bedrooms as we have 2 babies. The bathroom now is tiny so need to make it bigger (there's a 1500mm bath in there now).

So solutions without knocking the wall seems to be the below photo. We will budge the stud wall of the bathroom back a tad to make the corridor wider...?! Does it look okay just like that in the corner? Adding a utility cupboard next to it is a good idea as a few have suggested... thanks!!

how we bought it....

the plan:

(already knocked the wall to make Lshape, changed bathroom into bedroom)

thanks!

So, working within the constraints of not moving the load bearing wall. I would have gone for something like this. Which, gives you a large family bathroom, and, a much larger bedroom 3 ( which at present is very tiny ).

You should always plan right at the beginning however, so that future building work can be achieved without amending phase 1, 2 etc

Still, it is what it is..........hopefully, this one might work.

Stick to the original design, its practical, its how you put it together now, don't over do it, keep it simple and stylish, remember tiles are the carrier of all the other candy in the bathroom, wall mounted furniture, wc create the impression of more floor space, don't put taps on the bath, keep it clean, fill with a valve and divertor, overflow filler etc

OnePlan - thanks yes i did like your idea a lot. however we can't touch that wall where you've put french doors :( i made this thread as this one was was how to make the bathroom bigger in the space that it is currently is in rather than redesign the whole house (as we have already done the Lshape and moved the kitchen to the back doors now, because of ventilation issues with the extractor fan we couldn't put the kitchen where (oneplan) has suggested!) So we can't knock any walls now as we discovered the party wall issue in flats.

So seems like most are suggesting a door to the living room from the second bedroom, i thiiiink I'd rather the corridor and tiny room than the bedroom coming straight off the lounge???

Man about the house & Carolina - you suggested the same design but unfortunately we can't knock that wall either in the tiny room to make it bigger. I suppose we could try and incorporate that wall into the tiny room somehow.... wardrobe?!

thanks so much for your advice everyone!

Man about the hosue - out of interest... what would you have done initially?! see [https://www.houzz.co.uk/discussions/floorplan-change-2-to-3-bed-flat-dsvw-vd~4734994[(https://www.houzz.co.uk/discussions/floorplan-change-2-to-3-bed-flat-dsvw-vd~4734994) thanks so much, your ideas are brilliant.

Being a (biased) bathroom designer I'd suggest increasing the size of the bathroom to 2685mm x 3410mm as shown attached

In that case a separate en suite backed onto the family bathroom and reducing the size of the 2nd bedroom to access the lounge may be worth considering

In that case did you like this one or are you thinking to change bedroom three as well now?

I think if i had the time over, i'd would have gone for something like this:-

wehave already ripped out the old bathroom in bed3. Bedrooms have to have a window so bed2 won't work in your idea but that would be ideal otherwise! also we have already moved the kitchen to the bottom right next to the bifolds....

(we are end of terrace)

or like this? yellow is windows....

Yep, saves cutting up bed 2. Will the bathrooms just have fans ? No natural light ?

Bed three..or office is small. If someone wants it for a nursery or kids room / 2 nd tv room etc they can have it.. Lots of options. Bed 1 &2 are decent sizes and I would def put an ensuite in if you can. Bed 3 will always be tiny. How it is. But maximise value somewhere else ( ie 2 bathrooms if poss) good wardrobes etc.

Great job though !!

It's really coming along! Will bed 3 fit a bed/wardrobe in? Will it be a bedroom for the whole of childhood or just the first few years?

Last ditch attempt at making bedroom 3 larger and more usable for the future, plus an En-Suite and main bathroom.

To the inexpert eye you seem quite limited now the kitchen has moved and the lack of windows. Am I right in saying the door wall of bed 3 is also load bearing? I think I would go with Hugh's plan posted on Thursday but lose the utility cupboard (i.e. Move the bathroom up) so you're not cutting into bed 2 with a corridor. I think there's the room (?) and the coat cupboard would be very useful

Hi Stef,

Out of all the options I'd say man about House's plan with the coat and utility cupboard with 2 bathrooms is the best layout. I'd make the coat cupboard 1000mm wide by 750mm deep and utility cupboard 1000mm wide and deep. This would give you space to have a shower bath in the main bathroom (important to keep a bath in the property) and shower in the en suite.

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so like this minnie?

Yes like that, although do you need to keep the 3100 wall, I thought that one could come out?! I'd just have a door straight into the lounge so create a big hallway. I think it looks do'able and might also create a bit of separate space for the kids to play?

Please please please say this is doable....so good!!

And math stayed up all night working it out in their brain.

Its brilliant !

Seriously...can it be done ?

You are welcome, and yes you could have a fire door as you say if the building inspector says it's necessary, although you have front to back access on the plan, so, his decision. Always best to ask Building Control what they want first, it's easier.

Sooooo ive been out voted by the builders and my husband, in favour of this design:

Basically it has come down to costs as we can keep the floor this way and new radiator etc. And, After speaking to builders, that annoying wall is SUPER thick too, so adding doors into it isn't as easy as a normal wall. more costs etc. although i preferred MATH's design! I'm happy with this too though. the wall under the stairs is also SUPER thick.

I'm going to start a new thread on bathroom layouts for this design..... !

thanks so much everyone. i think this has all come together from a little piece of everyone's design! x

Looks great, and, you can only do what you can do. I'm sure it will look fantastic and can't wait to see the finished pics, good luck with it all.

Eldest can have this...bed, study, bookcase. Wardrobe..sorted !

Just wanted to thank everyone here for your comments! Here's the pics... we actually never got round to doing the ensuite, we used it for storage in the end. Moving now for husbands new job and more space for the 3 year old! Really appreciated all the comments here :)

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/74429088#/