Also, how long does island have to be for job? Length/depth minimum. Thanks

The hob just has to be an induction. Cheaper to operate than gas, quicker too and soooo much cleaner. Can be cleaned free of greasy marks within the minute. You don’t get that with gas. I’ve had an AEG one and am currently on a Bosch one. I can only compare the 2 and out of those the AEG was better. When this one goes bang it’s an AEG I will most likely go for.

I don't think too too many people opt for gas ovens. Much more choice with an electric one whether it is single or double. Personally wouldn’t look at the cheaper end of the market but stick to mid to high end if the budget allows. Therefore look at Neff, AEG, Bosch etc.

You can get a downdraft for an island. Not the cheapest though.

The size of the island depends on the space you have available and what you want to put into it.

Thanks Daisy, that is really helpful. x

How exciting Ellie :),

Don't have an appliance recommendation as I ve always had gas myself and only just moved to induction. What I would say is try and get a set up of bins to one side of the sink and dishwasher at the other. This will make life so much easier, you can scrape, rinse and load without moving an inch.

Good luck :)

Siemens, Neff or Bosch.

Where will your exhaust go? Ceiling, floor, out or recirculation?

Thank you all.

Extraction, if the hob was on the run of units, instead of the island, then its an external wall so no problem.

However, now that we are now considering induction hob on the island, I need to look into how extraction works.

Putting hob on island does initially seem to be going to cost a bit more as I am same, I do not want a traditional extractor. If hob was against the external wall it would be a built in extractor.

An extractor fitted flush to ceiling? Our ceiling is 2.75m high, could that still work? I do not like the look of the huge big boxed in white box that comes down from ceiling that sometimes you see extractors fitted into....... however fitted in ceiling void does sound like an expensive job?

I have builders starting here within 2 weeks. there is going to be a steel beam less than 1m from roughly where this ceiling extractor would be. The steel beam will run perpendicular to the island. Could that be an issue, or does it make it easier as the builders would be up there anyway.

Thanks!

If you don’t want the ‘box’ coming down from the ceiling then do look at the downdraft extractors. They are more expensive but there’s no need to go for Bora. Look at cheaper ones. It might solve your problem.

Here’s one example and the price is good but I haven’t looked at the technical, output etc

Hob and extractor (recircilating or vent out). On island. Works brilliantly.

Could you post a floorplan with some measurements? It's easier to advise knowing what space you're working with.

A scribble below.

2 dotted lines are beams

On entering kitchen, ceiling is 2.75m high til you get to the horizontal beam where after sloped ceiling to 2.1m where it meets the 5m wand wall which will have sliding doors.
Top half of room, under sloped ceiling, wall on left is an external wall.

Would love to have no sink or hob on island, but not enough work space. Don't like look of sinks hence hob on island.
Extraction...

Thanks

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Is the kitchen - staircase - combination ok fire regulation wise? (I'm dutch, we don't have that many building regulations)

And what would you like to fit in? Sofa? Dining table?

Yes. stairs coming down into kitchen OK, as only 1 floor above.

This space will be created by removing 2 walls, here the beams. Currently the room under sloped roof is our kitchen and the room with 2.75m ceiling height is our dining room.

The builders start in 12 days!

This space is really just for cooking, eating, homework. We have a separate lounge. It needs to hold a dining table for 4, extending to seat more on a rare occasion eg at Christmas. I would like an island.

Where does the door on the right lead to?

What does the bay window look like? (photo please?)

Is your current plumbing below or above the beam on your plan?

Door on right is out to a small conservatory, we debated over getting rid of it, but it is well used and a great dumping ground for muddy wet coats n boots, rather than them coming in through my new kitchen.

Bay window, lovely, thinking of creating a small window seat there too.

Washing machine is currently where boiler is marked in top left of plan.

Current sink is in top right corner where w. machine is marked on plan.

What size will your boiler be? (as in what is the smallest size cabinet it will fit in? 45cm?)

And are you planning a dishwasher?

I'm really trying to see how you've imagined your layout to be..

Because in the floorplan you've drawn the hallway door (to begin with) would give issues. It also looks way off, if I may say. This is a remake of your scetch (nevermind the cabinet types and such):

Wow, that is pretty much the space!

Some pics for you... bay window, sloped ceiling in kitchen, door to conservatory. It's a weird space!

I have considered island further up, so hob is under sloped roof, easier to extract?

I know what you mean by the kitchen door....

Opposite the kitchen door, in the hallway, is door to lounge. See pic, if door into kitchen is able to open like this then I thought doorway could work?

My suggestion would be no island..

An island means being stuck with this huge 'lump' in your space. No flexibility at all.

And I really like weird spaces and challenging kitchen designs (it's what I do for a living), but even more I like people to have workable layouts. Even if that means being a little blunt..

I guess the sliding doors are ordered and soon to be installed?

Is there a posibility to drill some holes towards the conservatory and place your washing machine there (other side of wall)? So your oven could go in the top right corner?

I just feel that layout really would mean a central space of 3.5 m X 5 m with only a dining table in it? I actually think it would be quite empty feeling

You need the space to move around, as there is plenty of 'traffic'. By adding an island you're also adding an aisle.

Hi, my electric oven is an AEG and it’s great. It’s 9 years old and still going strong. Make sure you get a pyrolytic oven, this means it has a function whereby it cleans itself. Wonderful! I have a ceramic hob, but once it pops it’s clogs I’ll replace it with an Induction one. So easy to clean and done in seconds. I’d never go back to gas.

Regarding your layout, I'd be tempted to move the island so it is central on the run of cabinets, maybe taking it a little bigger, then having your dining table parallel to the island. I'd have bench on the side closest to the island so you can push the table up to the island with the bench tucked fully under when it is not needed. A couple of neat armchairs and side table in the bay for a 'coffee/conversation' area?

I'd get rid of the tall unit for the washing machine on the opposite wall, do you have room for the machine in another part of the house? A bathroom cupboard? Or if the island is bigger you could integrate it under the island?

How?

We did consider that layout at one point but feel 2.5 m is not enough to sit comfortable around the table and allow someone to walk by.

Placing the island like this would fit. But I think it's a waste of good space. And you'd have this large glass wall.. behind you..

So if you can let go the island idea, "a central space of 3.5 m X 5 m with only a dining table in it" would be the best I can come up with. It will not feel empty; when dressed right it will feel grand.

Just another before I'm off to bed.

The 8 seats are merely to show how much would fit in, tables are 150x90cm each, so when using regular/folding chairs there could be some more for a cozy Christmas dinner :)

Many thanks rinq for all of your input and layout sketches!

my thinking was the table could be pushed flush with the island the majority of the time leaving a gap to walk past of approx 140cm. Thats with a 110cm gap between island and units, 90cm island and 90cm table. Or if you rotate the table and have it pushed with one end against the island, a 120cm table would sit 4 and leave 110cm to pass which is the same as the gap between island and units. If it was an extending table it can be rotated 90 degrees on the rare occasion more seating is required. Yes, it would mean it would probably close off that side of the room but if it's not a daily occurance? Some compromises will have to be made if you really want to fit everything in that space unfortunately.

Why don’t you have an island which then becomes a dining table (perhaps lower height) then you get all the workspace and feel of island.

If you do decide to have a hob in the island....

I would recommend putting in the extractor fan under the floor and out to an external wall. We bought the siemens induction hob ( Ex875lx34e) similar to the bora one and it looks very smart as its all hidden without anything in the sight line. However this needs to be decided before the build starts...

Question: Is it a kitchen / diner or just a kitchen?

Ellie, I’ve gone for all Neff appliances for cooking. I had my heart set on getting the AEG downdraft induction hob until my kitchen designer pointed out I couldn’t have 3 drawers under the hob since the downdraft unit is quite deep so the top drawer would have to be a dummy one.
With regards to extraction fans, my hob is in the middle of the breakfast bar which is 2310mm in length and all I required was a good extractor fan at the end of the breakfast bar on the external wall, there’s no overhead fan in the way.