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If you keep the peninsula, you will have especially the corner cabinet open to the dining side, right? Even better, make it all drawers for placemats, napkins, candles, etc.

Without either moving the sink out of the corner or eliminating the peninsula, the expensive of the renovation may not be worth the marginal gains in storage and function.

@RNmomof2 zone 5 I can't even remember what i did there. I think the choices in that corrner would be a blind corner situation or just a standard base cab or bank of drawers. At this moment I'm thinking pull out shelves for my little appliances (i know everyone loves drawers but my favorite are pull out shelves).

I was out with someone several times and got quite annoyed that her ohone was going off every few minutes due to critters walking by her security cameras all around her house. She was really checking for her neighbor kids going into her yard to retrieve balls and frisbees and trampling her flowers.
I started an article in the current New Yorker at the library, about surveillance devices in Atlanta. Supposedly there are more such devices in Atlanta than any city outside of China, but I didn’t see their rsearch on that. Anyway, I’ll be going back to the livrqrylibrary to finish the article.

Porkandham, there was more than Flock, there are a lot of other devices, Ring etc, and something about a robotic dog surveillance. I really have to go back and read the rest.

This is a hot topic for good reason. First thought it sounds like a great idea to catch criminals, but the direction our goverment is moving I have no faith it will be limited to this use. Our city has bought Flock in without discussing it out in the open. Nothing through City Council meetings, or public notice. The police chief signed a contract with a company where Flock was part of the "crime prevention package". Definitely think that this should be halted until there is at minimum a public discussion and any use should be posted on signs, not sure I am even comfortable with that.

There are people who are turning surveillance against some of the people who are most for it, and of course when they are in the lens, they hate it.
There has been local and federal video surveillance of people attending services at mosques for decades.
So these left liberal videographers, to agitate, no doubt, but why not?, have started taping evangelical Christians attending services. It's perfectly legal, but they have been cursed at, had the police called on them, threatened with lawsuits, and have been assaulted or had equipment damaged. It's a little bit different when you are the subject, isn't it?

I like Elmer’s method, too. We have 8-over-8 double-hungs with self-storing storms. That robot would be as hard to manage as washing them myself.

I just call my window washer people. Plus, I don't have to store the robot in between uses.

That AI summary didn't mention apartment buildings, where I think there's a potential market for these things........most buildings never wash windows as often as they should. And they're far cheaper than window washing people (except yourself) - though they're obviously not right for every home and window configuration.

I was a technical writer and editor. At one job, a new person was hired, but no one from the documentation department had interviewed her. It was quickly apparent that she could not construct a written sentence. Rather embarrassingly for all, one of the managers decided to check out her diagramming skills, which were nil, even at the most basic level. Frankly, most of the product developers, and managers, could not do it (it was left up on the whiteboard), even those who could actually write fairly well. Most of the technical writers could, but we were a little shocked that it was not taught in all schools. (btw, that person did not survive a month at the job, and the hiring process was altered.)
I learned the most about English grammar when I studies French, and more when ai studied German! My kids both had Latin in elementary or middle school, and I know it helped them understand grammar and vocabulary.

KW, thank you. It was sad to think a dog so sweet could be treated so badly. I'm still with the same vet that took care of him. He was always so upset being in the little examining room, so Lisa (my vet) took him out into the waiting room and sat on the floor with him and did her exam. It was so kind of her. I saw his chart and saw it had 3 stars on it. I mentioned that I was impressed that he got a 3 star rating. She laughed and said that was not a good thing. He gave the staff a hard time when they would take him in the back for any procedure. Once she started treating him in the lobby, he was fine with anything they wanted to do. Poor baby.

I apologize. I'm still sick. And frustrated from being so sick. I would kill to be relatively normal, health-wise. I know I will never be a "normal" person. I shouldn't have said what I said. Truly. I thought of y'all today, when I was reading a statement that is going to be put out by the American Heart Association, and I was looking for things as proper and formal as possibly could be. Could be seen for decades, and maybe even generations? It was about cardiac biobanks, the world I live in. For my full-time job, that's not nearly as fun as my fun job.
That said, I love!!!!!!! ❤️ 😍

Consider something like these!




Take a pill If you had shared more info at the beginning then we could answer better from the beginning. I still think one plug and one switch are not enough even in the tiniest kitchen whereever youare .

So the Zillow house, once the objets and lampshades and drapery and furniture and wallpaper and portraits of the big-hair daughters in the 1980s are removed, and the holes patched, could you work with the trim around the doors, the floors, the high windows? How about the mirrors between the lower and upper windows? The layout isn’t bad. I wonder if one can pretty up the elevator hallway? Maybe you aren’t the only unit on the floor, but unless the neighbor is a brutal minimalist, perhaps they wouldn’t mind?
Also,
would you go to the estate sale?

So now I’m shopping the possible estate sale. I don’t have a place for them, but I do like some of the dining-style chairs in the sitting rooms, the stool in the kitchen, some of the rugs, I wonder if they are handmade. In the bathroom, the silver items around the sink are charming (put your day’s pills in the saucer! or maybe the flosser? so you don’t forget) and I almost like the jewelry caddy except she reminds me of a modern- day Marie Antoinette: headless. And if she holds the day’s earrings and necklace, what is the torso at the other end supposed to hold?

There's a ghost in photo 64..... And why are there mirrored lower cabinets in the kitchen, but not that bathroom? lol.
Off to google how to take a screenshot on a newer ipad....

@Springroz to screenshot…power button and volume up simultaneously.

I’m not sure that the examples reflect the question. If you have to choose between soccer and baseball, perhaps it is a time commitment? A neighbor’s daughter wanted to train with the cross-country team, as part of her soccer fitness. The XC coach said no, if you want to train you have to be on the team. (i’m thinking it had to do with school liability issues) For various reasons she couldn’t be on both, so she chose XC, and ended up state champion and earned a scholarship. So was not being able to do both a punishment? Or a choice?
A person on an ankle monitor isn’t prohibited from socializing with their ne‘er-do-wells, just from participating in nefarious shenanigans.
Another question is, does punishment or threat of punishment change a behavior internally, or just externally? Away from the threat of punishment, does the behavior occur, or does the person actually change the, I guess, desire, to perform the behavior?

" positive reinforcement - a very good training method for animals, especially dogs. It should also work for toddlers. "
It works very well for children too, long past the toddler stage. We used to joke that the dog training experiences we had before we had kids, made raising kids much easier.
I always thought that an element of Pavlov's demonstrations included his success in using positive reinforcement to communicate, not just to train. The thing about animals is that you can't tell them in words what you want them to do, or do only in certain circumstances, as you can with humans. Most learn eventually that a firm No means they did something wrong but that's different.
Rewarding a animal for a desired behavior, even if at first it's physically induced, gets the message across that that's what you want them to do.

^ except that in my area, the jail time may be so minimal that criminals are back out on the street commiting more crimes., so the consequence/punishment is no longer effective...

Hahaha! Good point! mea culpa!
But still, why not put the toggle THERE?

We've encountered a few of these and sometimes it takes both of us to decipher how to answer. I just went through this with Chase - I don't want paperless billing. But the wording was a little confusing - opt in - opt out? Yes I know it is safer, saves on paper and mailing etc. I pay it online and handle all the bills but if I'm ever abducted by aliens at least when the paper bill arrives DH will know to pay it.

Spilled liquid doesn’t just flow off the outer edge, it can also linger just under the lip, and drip. But if the drawers and doors come up very close to the underside of the countertop, it should be less of an issue. I know that even with overhang, I am sometimes cleaning the inside panel of a drawer.

In almost seven years in this kitchen I have spilled something that leaked off a counter just once. I can live with that clean up chore 😁

TLA=Three Letter Acronym
DH’s first thought is an airport code. IPA is Ipota’s airfield in Vanuata. One runway. No facilities.

" MB is more standard. "
It's amusing that this bothered you so much that you were motivated to do a search. To what end, I won't try to guess. So where I am is less standard. I'm okay with that, hope you are too.
The rest of what your search found seemed like nonsense to me but if you liked it, great!

“It's amusing that this bothered you so much that you were motivated to do a search. To what end, I won't try to guess.”
No need to guess, Elmer, I stated my motivation. I didn’t even use acronyms so it would have been quite clear if you had read my words rather than search for something that wasn’t between the lines. I’m sure had I come back saying, ”Wow Elmer, you’re right, MBZ is the more common abbreviation,” you would have taken no issue with me searching.

DH’s chair is a low Danish chair, so the coffee table (we think of it as a cocktail table) is just the right height for his dessert, wine, and the remotes. We also keep a bowl with the cat’s brush in it there. Used to keep coffee table books on it, but they are now on a bookshelf.

No coffee table here either. I had one, a mahogany butlers table, that I gave away 30 years ago. (Never kept anything on it.) 7 years later my daughter bought her own house and was happy to get the rest of my formal LR furniture - I haven't wanted one since.

We have a globe, a smallish handgun and my bong. Purely utilitarian.

Choosing a place that serves your needs can be tricky, and even harder for couples who may have very different needs. My dad had mobility issues, but was cognitively sound, even after his stroke. Mom was mobilie for a long time, but increasing dementia. After home with caregivers, a twisty route into memory care from rehab was a good move. But Dad’s physical needs could only be met in a facility where most of his fellow ”inmates” as he said, were not communicating well, if at all. There was one place we were all familiar with, that would happily have accommodated him, but he just didn’t want to go, and it was a long convoluted drive for me. I think he’d have been much happier there, except that people he was friends or associates with would have access to his personal history, including medical, and he was a private person in that respect.
Then there’s how much freedom do you have? My aunt in Independent Living gave up her car, but the shopping bus drops you off at one store, and picks you up in an hour, and you have to have maneuvered your way through the store, selected your items, maybe tried things on, complete your purchase, maybe use the restroom, and be back at the pick-up point, while using a cane or walker, in AN HOUR. And if you need to go to another store, you have to wait until the next shopping bus day. I take her out, we include lunch somewhere cute or Panera, and have a good time, and it takes the better part of the day. Getting old is a pain. Her son is finally stepping in to help out, thank goodness, but it is not his forte.
Before my parents’ medical emergencies, we were looking at options. But because of their different needs, no place could accommodate them in the same apartment, or even wing. That sucked.

Actually, speaking of lifelong learning, I want to retire to a college campus, where I can audit classes, hear speakers, attend cultural performances, and can I get that cheap student health insurance, too? A well-endowed school that provides at least basic housekeeping and laundry, please? And one with a nursing program, I can be their work-study, internship, etc. (actually, our nearby college fulfils all that, I’ll check into it!)

Sushi, I personally know a family who built an assisted living facility because they did not want an elderly relative living in one of the few available in our area. It was so profitable that they have since built a nursing care facility with a memory care wing and a rehab / step down wing. And a hospice. They all make money. 🤷♀️

I have no idea why the people who own assembled parcels of land near our gated community havent started building these!
They may need a CON (Certificate of Need) or the equivalent. CONs are not always easy to come by.

Clinton’s press secretary posted this on FB, so I just though I’d share the pertinent middle paragraphs here:
“Leaving India tensions were very high among the White House staff and all who protected the President. There was no more dangerous trip or flight into a country during my time at the White House.
At the senior staff meeting the morning we were leaving for Pakistan, the Secret Service presented a plan to reduce the risk of an attack on the President. They planned to use a C-17 to carry the President, staff, service, military and media to Pakistan. (Air Force One was never even considered as a mode of transportation or decoy) The service plan was to load the C-17 up with support staff and media and then have the President get on. The real plan was for him to then secretly get off the opposite side and get on a smaller military jet that could not be seen from the cameras because of the size of the C-17.
That plan simply didn't work for me and I made that clear in the meeting. A couple of us from the WH staff adjourned to the hallway and met with the two top officials in the Secret Service. I made the point clearly and strongly that we could not use the media and other civilians as decoys to protect the President. It was that simple After a tense, yet respectful conversation, the service promised a plan that would addresse their needs, our concerns and certainly what the President would have wanted had he needed to be brought into the conversation.
Which, to their credit, they did. The new plan was to park the C-17 on the tarmac but instead of having the President get on the plan he walked around it in clear view of hundreds of reporters covering the departure. Everyone who was watching there or on TV knew the President wasn't getting on that plane.
What they didn't know was what plane he was getting on. Out of sight behind the C-17 were three small military passenger jets. One was marked with US government markings, the other two had nothing.
The smaller three jets took off first, both the one marked and the two unmarked. The reporters on the C-17 took off last so they could witness the three smaller planes taking off. They knew the President was on one of them, but not which one.”

T rarely takes advice or instruction, he follows what he calls his own "common sense", but when it comes to his own safety, sure he'll follow that lead. I question whether the SOS knew, if he did then why allow others to be in danger? I hope that any RW media who boarded that plane are scratching their collective heads today.

“why allow others to be in danger?”
Indeed

The plywood and ivy in that last house give me the willies, I wonder how the new owners dealt with it?
The original post house, the flipper didn’t paint the stone thank goodness, but was that brick around the other sides?

" and the traffic noise was terrible! The realtor told us some people actually enjoy the sound. Go figure but someone did buy it.🤷♀️😵💫 "
I have a sound app that came with my headphones, and you can program it for sounds to help you sleep. There are the usual suspects (wind, rain, bells, meditation music, etc) but there are some really weird ones, like traffic, office noises, boots on gravel, and even slicing onions!

Forty years from now, it will be adding back walls between the rooms.

I'm stll trying to figure out the distinction. I grew up in NYC , now live in Pa, and it sems whatever hotdog buns I've purchased are what I expected.
Can anyone tell me what kind I likely gravitate to? The growing up in NYC ( Brooklynto be more precise) may be the clue needed.
This is all new to me.

I tried them, but did not like the top slit. Will go back to side cut. Not enough room for everything that I like with the hot dog.

Single door.

#2, all brick, in that tone, definitely the two car garage. Not loving the shutters, even though they are the correct shape. Keep it simple to start. Do you have a choice of window colors? I like this look for your new home.


Where did I ask for people to lie to me or rave about my choices? I simply asked for some advice on color schemes and got a lot of unsolicited advice that was unrelated to what we are doing. If y’all are professionals, I sure hope you practice more restraint in your professional lives. Otherwise, I would highly recommend learning the art of that, it will get you much further in life and be far more meaningful than designing a pretty home.

Does anyone remember the lovely NYC galley kitchen of several years ago? Sage green, I think?

That’s the one! Thanks! Still pretty (and was that really 14 years ago??)

Is it in the budget to replace the cabinets, or do you plan to keep them? How about lighting? Do you have adequate lighting or do you need new fixtures?
I found this Pinterest link of a video showing how they hid the gas pipes. I know that your pipes are currently behind the stove, but maybe something could be built to cover them. And you have another pipe in the corner to the left of the sink that may be easier to
cover. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/153896512262839206/

I need to see what is next to this space and also what your lighting is like. The easiest way to brighten a space is better lighting. The cabinets look to be in good shape . The granite edge is a bit dated but how much do you hate it . IMO the hardwood looks like it is in need of some work is that part of the plan? If so then replacing the kitchen floor with something to match is a good idea but not if redoing the rest of the floors is going to happen. I need to see that place where the gas pipes are since you always need to shut off for the gas it is not usually as simple as a covering it.

In my photo, there is a hook on the short wall of the shower. Normally it holds the rug mat, and when I shower my towel hangs there waiting.

On the extra ten inches, could you also cheat out enough more to do a full length linen closet there? That would add a ton of storage for towels, extra supplies, TP, etc and you could reserve the vanity storage for daily use items. And definitely plan for towel hook or bars within reach of the shower!

@marilynmontano I've thought about that--trying to figure out how a closet or shelving that's 15 or even 20" wide, but 48" deep would work unless it has a false back and then there's wasted space.
@Mrs Pete Our current 5' vanity has 2 sinks and I want to keep having 2. My husband and I are often at the sinks at the same time before bed. We have enough space. We don't keep much on the countertop at all.
We can't/won't place controls on the opposite wall because that's an outside wall. It would solve the reach problem, but not going to do it on an outside wall like that. Someone mentioned a pony wall next to the toilet for controls to go there, which I might consider, so they'd be easier to reach.
I don't like shower curtains, especially on a walk in shower. It would solve all the problems (except the problem of having a shower curtain lol.) We'll definitely do a door of some kind.
Hand towels and my bath towel are on the wall opposite the vanity. Husband's bath towel is on a bar over toilet. Rignt now I hang my towel over the shower curtain rod when I shower and put it back on the bar when I'm done. I need to think about towel bar placement and if there's a better way.
Agree with making sure there's enough storage inside the shower. A ledge all along would be nice, but I think I want some kind of shower panel, not tile, so we'll see what's possible. Lots to think about. I think I'm going to go to a showroom this weekend and then start calling contractors.
Trash can is currently between the toilet and that wall next to the vanity and hamper is opposite the door (doorway is next to vanity, but I guess I drew the picture in a confusing way and people think it's on the short wall, but it's not.)

A coworker years ago had previously worked in a slaughterhouse. He became a vegetarian. There is no romance in food production.

Just another story that doesn't move the needle or hold water. One Hispanic out of 55 million Hispanics who are U.S. citizens left out of fear and it's all because of this administration. Sorry, I do not believe your gossip. Should I do a compilation of the brutal stories of the life's destroyed by unauthorized immigrant not being enforced? Or the costs incurred by society because of unauthorized entry and the open boarder policy of the prior administration? I don't have days to do it, and it wouldn't move the needle for anyone on this board.
Enforcing laws sometimes end badly and most adults know this, but if we didn't have four years of open boarders with at least 20 million people invading the country do you think your friend of a friend would of had the experience? Why hasn't the other 55 million left out of fear?

20 million illegal immigrants did not enter the country during B iden’s administration. Now, you're simply spreading misinformation.

They sell all different size rechargable bulbs so any corded light can be wireless.

Plastic or vinyl shower curtain. Get a handheld shower head, and spritz and spray the shower curtain down regularly. Taller, elongated toilet.

And another thing..............teach your sons to do their own laundry NOW. Kids need to be self sufficient in order to leave the nest. It doesn't mean you can't offer assistance from time to time, but useless young men are simply useless to everyone especially women.

I put a new one on, i just put a regular one on. I’m pretty sure without a few days, urine will get all over it.

We have a Yorkshire trip this fall and an Italian destination wedding in the spring, so I think a trip even to Sarasota might be one too many. Even if it means I miss a fun Ring! Sarasota bell concert. (They really are a hoot) So put me down in the ”regretfully probably not, but ever optimistic” column. (and really hoping to go, as February in Chicago is the best time to not be here.)

book the middle seat between you full fare economy in a relative's name and then cancel it before takeoff, LOL

Devious, so devious. We should try it.

Your cabinets are stunning! and apothecary drawers used as apothecary drawers, love that. and yes to Emily’s idea to lighten the inside of the glass cabinets.
It’s beautiful,

This looks like a very well functioning kitchen with top end choices. So brava for that! For me, though, it's the black cabinets that break up the visual flow of the uppers. There are big blocks of finish contrasts going on in a kitchen with no window: black cabinets; wood cabinets; massive cream range hood, i.e. three visual fields in a small amount of space. All the same, leave it. You like it.
Two possible tweaks if you must:
Counter stools matching wood instead of black stools as below. And clear glass pendants.
That said, you're done. Enjoy your new kitchen.

Spectacular!

I see the convenience of the utility room having a door to the back terrace, but not at the expense of a window in the office. Depending, of course, on the need for complete darkness in the office. Could those two rooms be rotated so that they both have a window or door to the terrace?
I wonder if it would be convenient to also give the utility room easier access from the kitchen? If you have an especially dirty pan that should go in the utility sink until after dinner, or the birthday cake is being hidden away until time for singing, or just to have another way to circle through the house without going through the hall?


I agree with Jeffery.

How big are your vehicles? Make sure you have enough room to open the car doors. The garage looks tight. And don’t forget about space for things like bikes and yard tools.

Side story that enhances this weekend’s theme: my son’s first Christmas pageant at church was an original Epiphany play, incorporating some topical events of the time, including ”is Pluto a planet or not?” Little DS was Pluto, who just wanted to fit in somewhere, and find his ”corner of the sky”. It was so sweet.

Sun Goddess/ Ramsey Lewis/ Earth, Wind & Fire

St. Judy's Comet/ Paul Simon












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