I really like the big built in cupboard on the landing - and will look amazing with a lick of paint and new handles - but I’m wondering if it would work if all her clothes were in her room, and the landing was a separate study space? Or does she prefer to close a door when she wants to study?

This one might fit along the left hand side wall - there are models that come with a desk :-)
https://www.clei.co.uk/clei/poppi.htm#

Hi Sam, harder as it’s a small space but I think it would look good dark as that’s what’s springs to mind with gentlemen’s club, Window film is a great idea, I’m thinking grey, teal, sand and seal the floor a more golden and light rug (as in the pic) a couple of gold ornate framed pics would look good too?

I’m going grey, a teal velvet headboard, possibly pull the bed out slightly from the window and could the big mirror be located elsewhere for to give her some space?

Think she could hold on to the bookcase/ writhing desk with this colour scheme or possibly even paint it?

Forgot the pic! Doh

Hi Sam, what is the height of the window, door and ceiling?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/28mm-Large-Multicoloured-Trimming-Pinks/dp/B01FZLV6B0/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?keywords=fringing&qid=1560320530&s=gateway&sr=8-15

As far as the desk goes - I imagine she would be ok about it going if there was a better alternative. I saw a Rocco desk on EBay for High Street prices. I can’t currently find the link but I thought if she had a desk that was less deep she could line up a desk and chest of drawers on the headboard wall.
I was also thinking about the closet on the landing- is this deep enough? Would it benefit from some light demolition and replacement? Or could it be remade deeper?

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I think the writing desk is really not helping. It looks totally inadequate for storing all her stuff and does not make best use of space. I think you should utilise every inch of space on that wall and have some sort of built in storage with desk combo that goes up and over the door with plenty of shelves and maybe a desk that folds up when not in use so she can switch off when not studying. Some sort of soft wall hung lighting for working and reading in bed would be good too, you can get some amazing plug in wall lamps these days. I would go for a soft upholstered headboard in a fabric of her choice. I will try and find some pictures

Thanks all, you guys stay up late!
Belbo, the wall bed is great, but way out of budget at the moment.
Alix those curtains sound great, especially combined with Jonathan's pom poms ;-)
Beano, I'll show her that colour scheme and what happens. It's my taste, and she won't be living here forever.
Jonathan what rocco desk were you thinking ? Google brings up a lot of different ones. They seem quite industrial looking, in the main.
Marina I'll get you those measurements today.
Chloeloves, I couldn't agree more about the writing desk. Right furniture, wrong spot. I'm working on getting her to agree to move it! I'd like more of a built in, over the door solution, but she thinks this will look modern and cheap, she's a bit of a young fogey!

How about going for some kind of raised bed/desk combination? along the lines of these?

If you went down the bespoke furniture route, it could be designed to suit her exact storage needs and tie in with the 'Gentlemans Club' theme (with rich tones and panelling etc).

Another thought is to perhaps change the door to a sliding door, so you don't need to worry about door clearance. Similar to these.

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Perhaps if you get a desk with a knee hole it will take up less space in the room and allow her to have a better chair

Hiya Sam.... with regards to the raised bed, I have always been an admirer of those that use Ikea hacks... this option looks like one that might work well and you may well be able to buy some of the component sections from Ebay or Gumtree to help keep the costs down - https://imgur.com/gallery/KX4zE

This is another interesting and unusual option - http://wallcar.me/set/

Another option is to take the bed even higher and have the desk underneath; this is a project that we did recently that you can draw some ideas from :-

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Also interested in ceiling height :) And the layout of the landing (for example width from bedroom wall to railings). There's a door directly on the right of her bedroom door, right? (as in: she's not the only user of that piece of landing?)

Another thing to look at on here or google is ideas for small spaces/tiny homes/studios... I’ve seen some amazing ones where different bits fold away at different times, so pull it down it’s a bed, pull it up and it’s a desk, where even everything stays level on the desk when you shut it and turn it into a bed! I can’t find the examples I’m looking for atm. But have a search... maybe it’ll give you the inspiration you need.

You’re creativity in achieving superb solutions is there you just need the inspiration!

I’m following this thread with interest.

Our daughter is in a similar situation to Sam’s, with an only slightly bigger (and equally ‘cluttered’) room in our home. Although we do have a separate (music) room for her to use.

Please keep us updated Sam.

I’m quite sure you will :)

For the built in shelving could you do an Ikea hack? I’m looking at doing a wardrobe hack where the pax units have been painted a gorgeous colour and moulding added. Have a look at insta account design sixty nine he did a wall of Ikea shelving all glammed up with beading etc. I seem to remember you are a bit handy at the old diy shelves anyway!

Loft bed? Build one yourself in front of the window, because 205cm is enough for a mattress, but not for a frame. Would not be too difficult, frame and some legs beneath, fixate, slatted bed base in, mattress, good to go :)

Or a study bed? Look here: http://www.studybed.co.uk/ (crazy expensive though!!)

Ed, you know I will ;-)

Rinq that study bed is what I’d been waffling about.. ! I’m sure you could make one Sam!

Marina, Rinq, the door frame is 2.05m high and the ceiling is 0.88m above the top of the door frame.
Rinq, outside on the landing the space where the cupboard and tallboy are is 2m x 1m. And yes, the door to the other front bedroom is right next to the door to the tiny room.

I love some of these raised platform beds. Esoecialy the ones which look more like a mezzanine than a bunk bed Plus I'd love to have a go at building one. Pesky child is dead against 'sleeping on a shelf'. I will change her mind.

Wow! With a ceiling that high, go up! Opening up the floor space would be great!

Following as well Sam. My smallest bedroom which I use as an office is sat in a state of indecisivenes. Looking for ideas :-)

Hi Sam, I'm sure others will come up with much better ideas, but I've had fun thinking about it too, so... here's what I'm thinking. Use either bookcases or drawer units, or a combination of the two, to build something that will hold a slatted bed base. Mattress on top.

Kitchen wall cabinets at the end of the bed, with a rail that will hold clothes hangers mounted on the bottom.

Some ideas:

What size is the closet in the landing? Would it be nice to paint it a rich classical color and then build a pax-like neutral around it (so the old built-in juts out a bit).

Love the image of the bed with drawers underneath, Carolina! If I could choose between a ladder and a little hop up, I'd go for the drawers straight away (sorry floorspace). This is what the ikea kitchen planner let me make of the room, they even had a writing desk (not sure it'd fit though..). They wouldn't let me pick slats for countertop though, so imagine something a little more fluffy up there ;) And curtains..

The bed could go sideways, but there'd need to be about 20cm clearance in front of the window, for the curtains and to be able to clean there once in a while. Would give some more elbowspace for the desk though, especially when the door is hinged left instead of right.

hi Sam, how about a library / "cigar room" type of space with a feminine feel.

the loft bed or storage would be great, but unfortunately there is not really enough height to comfortably put the mezzanine. fortunately, there is plenty of space for book shelves to store all the books and and items that are not used too often. the built in bookshelves are made of various sizes of IKEA's Billy bookcase. you would need a ladder to access it, which you can store behind the door or just outside of the room on the landing.

if it is possible, it would really help if the door was swapped to open to the right.

for the window, i would use a roman blind, instead of a curtain. it will soften the view, add some colour and will not interfere with the bed and the desk.

The bed is a built-in raised platform and 2x IKEA NORDLI 80 cm x 54cm and 1x NORDLI 40cm x 54cm height and a single mattress. it will give your daughter lots of useful drawers for everyday. if you add a panel on the wall on the back and luxurious cushions and pillows, it can be used as a daybed/ sofa. and will make the room feel less as a bedroom and more like a room for a soirée. use velvet and faux silk for the roman blind and cushions, to add a touch of sophistication and luxury.

create an amazing display of art, decoration and photographs to express creativity and celebrate high ceiling of the room. it will draw the eye up and will distract from the size of the room.

the radiator can be put in an interesting cover and will become an additional shelf. an enormous mirror above will add light and interest to the room. it will create an illusion of a bigger space.

i think, a small but functional desk with a pretty and comfortable chair would look nicer and be more comfortable then the current desk arrangement. IKEA Brusali Desk is small and simple. it would fit nicely in the room.

the cupboard on the landing is really nice, but a built-in floor to ceiling wardrobe either off the shelf or custom built would give you much more storage and would be easier to organise clothes etc. Similar to this

Wow, Marina, that's absolutely beautiful. And really achievable. Thank you so much. I'll show the designs to my daughter today. You have definitely chosen the right career!

Marina, you made that design look a lot better! Thumbs up! :)

Rinq, Carolina I've just seen your designs. Great minds think alike!
Rinq, your idea for enhancing the built-in cupboard is intriguing. I don't think I can bear to get rid of it just yet. I'm a sucker for original features. But wrapping it in more storage to the side and above is achievable.

Lol, Marina did the improved version of what I was thinking :-) I love it!

Have to say, that scheme by marina is fantastic, now just implement my full colour scheme suggestion and your in a winner....! Lol

Only messin, that looks fantastic :-)

Will do Beano. I was even wondering about faux panelling for the big wall. Not a fan of the faux in general, but I think it might add even extra wow factor here. Three or four rows of three 'frames' perhaps...

That could possibly work just draw to scale to see what it would be like, still like the idea of some gold ornate frames for the club feel, tani hs done some panelling with wood battons on one of her threads, looked well and really added character!

Ps marina’s colours where great too :-)

She might not wanna leave if it ends up like that!

Ps I do like marina’s pic layout too, really liking the idea off keeping the pics central and running to the ceiling to give the real sense of height and occasion.

The ornate would look good but more contemporary framed black and white pics and loads of them could work very well as shown, they would be fairly cheap to buy too...ikea.

I’m so happy you like it. I hope your daughter would like it too xx when the layout is approved we can run few visualisation for colour schemes, lights etc. I like the panelling idea too

About the window and privacy. Good idea about the frosting film. Otherwise you could add window planter outside of the window and plant taller plants.

Hi, yep Im already planning a gallery wall, potentially on the stairs (or maybe main bathroom) and got a good range of sizes of plain black frames from Wilkos, supplemented with some slightly more expensive non standard sized ones from John Lewis. I did see Tani HS's panelling somewhere. I must revisit it.

.. And re her not wanting to move, once she has the qualification I'm sure I won't see her for dust. I'm already thinking how this room would work for bf's son, should we ever set up home together.

Another way to buy picture frames is on eBay, freegle and charity shops. You could get good quality frames for almost noting. Different frames can add a character to the gallery wall.

Loving the window boxes Marina. I hadn't thought of having them upstairs, or that they could act as window dressing. I'll get the landscapers to include it in the planting plan they're going to do for me.

Ooh “landscapers”, “planting plan”. All sounds very professional!

Nice!

Sam, Lol (quite literally).

Hahaha

Since the ceiling is so high, perhaps a darker color on the top part would create a more den-like feel. Solid color on the ceiling, perhaps a wallpaper on the walls (top 70cm or so). Some slaths along the edges and stategically placed vertical to make the walls look like paneling. All in white.

Story: I lived in a 25m2 studio apartment (rental) before I bought a house with my love. The ceiling was 3m high. Bathroom (2.8x2.5m) had white tiled walls up to 2m and pale grey floortiles, no tub, very drab, very not me. So I painted the complete top part bright sky blue (and bought some retro showercurtain and bright colored towels). Best thing ever! And I'm not even a blue lover. Short: Some contrast makes a space come to life!

Teasing my wallpaper fetish again:

https://www.gowallpaper.co.uk/muriva-encyclopedia-bookcase-wallpaper-in-cream-572217.html

https://www.gowallpaper.co.uk/holden-decor-mad-dogs-framed-multi-wallpaper-97921.html

https://www.gowallpaper.co.uk/holden-decor-safari-frames-black-gold-metallic-wallpaper-90071.html

https://www.wallpaperfromthe70s.com/additional-wallpapers/retro-wallpaper/2077/perdula?c=119

https://www.wallpaperfromthe70s.com/wallpaper-patterns/novelty-wallpaper/1352/eistin?c=111

https://www.wallpaperfromthe70s.com/wallpaper-patterns/romantic-wallpaper/2624/rovoloni?c=111

Rinq, Some of that wallpaper is awesome. And I like the idea of a coloured ceiling. Might need to wait for child #1 to leave home before I get to do a full refurb and make all the ideas above reality, but I've got plenty of other rooms to keep me busy while I wait.

Looking forward to the cocktail party. Let me know what I can bring- some whipped bean dip or a hedgehog of cheese and pineapple skewers perhaps?

Pineapple is the classiest fruit. But its OK I'm getting it catered