Floorplan help please - Kitchen and master bedroom ensuite / wiw

4 years ago

Hello,

I am need of a little help figuring out the floorplan/ layout for our renovation- I keep going round in circles so any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Master en- suite/ walk in wardrobe - we are building a 1st floor extension (as seen on the original vs proposed floor plans in red) to fit an ensuite & walk in wardobe. To help this, you will see we have moved the entrance to the master bedroom slightly down the corridor to allow separate access doors into the en suite & wiw from the bedroom. We can't decide which way round to put the two rooms and what the layout within them should be. I have attached a couple of options but any feedback would be fab. if possible, we would like to keep the windows on this side of the house symmetrical to the existing windows on the left hand side of the house.

Kitchen-
In the original floor plan you will see the kitchen & dining room were two separate rooms. So far we have knocked down this wall to make an open space for the kitchen/ diner with the intent to block up one of the doors (depending on which end the kitchen goes). If we keep the kitchen in it's current position we will change the window in the dining room to doors. The downside of this is that the kitchen design is limited to include a mid height oven. The second option is to flip the kitchen and put the kitchen where the dining room is. this design would allow for the bi folds or sliding doors to be put where the existing kitchen window is. These bifolds would open out onto lawn whereas a door in option a would open out onto the section between lawn & patio. The downside of this is the possibility of noise/ smells from extraction as the services will now be in the middle of the house. Many suggestions would be most welcome.

Thanks so much in advance!

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OnePlan

4 years ago

Lots to consider here ! Sight lines from main rooms and entrances - getting daylight into hallways and planning a kitchen that totally suits you and the space you have available ! It’s too much to be tacked a forum to be honest ... it’s the sort of project we often work on with clients ... we have lots of drawings on our pro page that might give you some other ideas ( click on our name or icon to have a look ) - but in all honesty I would suggest you work with a concept planner ( like us) or designer to get the best layout by trying lots of options in sketch of CAD format before you undertake anymore building work . This is your home and it needs to be right.
By exploring lots of credible options - not just two - you should get better results. ( and less compromise)

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Jonathan
4 years ago
Given extending at the front is always tricky for fear of loosing kerb appeal - if you were to extend behind the kitchen and dining room this could solve any kitchen layout dilemmas.
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Hannah Alice
Original Author
4 years ago
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Forgot to attach thepossible layouts for the en-suite & walk in wardrobe that we have been considering.
Hannah Alice
Original Author
4 years ago
Thanks for your feedback Jonathan. Unforunately we are limited with space at the back of the house to extend and also the drains are located just outside the kitchen/ dining room so these would need to be re-located if we extended back into the garden. We are hoping we will be able to fit in a kitchen layout which will allow for a mid height oven. One of the options wren kitchens came up with is a G shape kitchen (which you can see taped onto the floor in one of the photos). We are just unsure which end of this open room to put the kitchen & dining room & which doors to keep/ block/ or even move if required.
minnie101
4 years ago
Hi, I think more info is needed. What are the exact dimensions of the extension as the drawings would suggest they're 6ft deep but they appear deeper looking at the actual plan. Do the windows need to be retained as is? It's hard to know without seeing the house. How much wardrobe space do you need and what height are the ceilings? Do you want a dressing table in there? I can't actually see the kitchen plan but people have such different requirements for kitchens depending on how and how much you use them, size of family, seats for dining etc. The same really applies for wardrobe space depending on work, lifestyle etc

i would honestly recommend using Karen at OnePlan. You can see a few different layouts and get a design that works for you personally allowing you to shop around for kitchen units etc and fees are extremely reasonable. The work you're doing is very expensive so you want to ensure it functions in a safe and practical way as well as looking nice
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OnePlan
4 years ago
Thanks Minnie101 ! :-)
rinked
4 years ago
Here's some suggestions on your floorplan.

You kitchen with three tall units, two corners, two large drawer units (one with cooktop), sink and dishwasher.

Turning the right hand side into three bedrooms makes more sense, as all the water is on the left of the house. It even leaves some landing space for a big linen closet, desk or little lounge area for the kids. And your master bed now had a walk-through closet and ensuite bathroom.

Please do consult a structural engineer, architect, concept planner or whatever pro to create the house you want (and advise you on what to do and what not to do!).
Hannah Alice
Original Author
4 years ago
Hi Minnie - thank you for your comments and well thought questions. I have tried to answer all of them to better inform any advice you might have.

The internal dimensions of our extension will be 1.75 m x 6.4m. The height of the ceiling in this extension will be 2.35m (the same as the bedroom). Ideally we would like to have a minimum of 3.6m wardobe space which can be a mixture of full height & draws etc. If possible, we would also like to have a mirror & dressing table in the walk in wardobe although the dressing table is not an absolute necessity as this could be moved into the bedroom. With regards to your comments re. windows; we plan on having a gable roof on the extension to match the existing gable roof on the left hand side of the house. We would be prepared to move the windows if they do not work with the proposed room layouts in the extension, although we aren't sure whether this would look a little strange to not have the symmetry in a two gabled roof?

I will take some screenshots of the proposed kitchen layouts we have been given from local companies to see whether you have any recommendations.
Hannah Alice
Original Author
4 years ago
Hi Rinq, thank you so much for taking the time to draw up some possible floor plans for us - this has been incrediby helpful.

I love your proposed layout for the kitchen. My only concern with your design is that the wall with the kitchen- diner entrance is load bearing and would therefore require structural work to move. Presumably this would not be an issue, just something I will need to discuss with a builder for an estimated cost. Do you think there would be enough room in the kitchen to add a pennisula on the external wall of your design, turning your design into a G shape kitchen? This is something we are considering but it is hard to tell whether the area would feel cramped.

I have attached a screenshot of another kitchen design that my partner likes which utilises an island although I do not think our kitchen diner has enough space for this.

Again, thank you for considering and proposing a floor plan for the 1st floor. Your approach to moving the master suite to the left of the property makes complete sense and appears a better utilisation of space, although walking this through in the house we have realised the views are much better on the right hand side of the property from the existing master bedroom and feel it would be best to keep this as the master. Do you have any recommendations on how best to use the extension for an en-suite & walk in wardrobe i.e. layout of bathroom items, which way round to have the two rooms, and also considering the window positioning & soil pipe that will need to be inserted to remove waste at the front of the property. Appreciate this is a lot of considerations I am seeking help for so any feedback / comments would be great. Thank you in advance.
Hannah Alice
Original Author
4 years ago
Please find attached some of the kitchen layouts we have been looking . Sorry these are all in different formats.
rinked
4 years ago
I did not move any walls in your kitchen dining, just the doorway. :)
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Hannah Alice
Original Author
4 years ago
Hi Rinq, sorry- I could probably have been clearer in my message. I meant for me to move the doorway I would need to make an amendment to the load bearing wall. Ive heard this can be quite a big & expensive job to do.
minnie101
4 years ago
I'm useless at kitchen design however I prefer this one re worktop space and the added benefit of the larder. Is there also a wall unit to the left of the oven as I think that would work better? I think in theory for an induction hob the extractor is meant to be wider than the hob, however most people don't do that. I'm just wondering if the wall units were butted next to the extractor how it would look if the wall units matched the base units in size? Ive tried finding a pic but it needs a little imagination. I also wondered how it would look with a hidden extractor? I would try to incorporate the bin next to the sink with DW the other side.
minnie101
4 years ago
Again, I can't design (!) but I'd keep the dressing room and ensuite the same size keeping the windows in the same place. I'd have the dressing room off of the bedroom with some form of glass door through to dressing area so as to keep the light in the bedroom. I've put the wardrobes on the short walls so it's a few cms shorter than you wanted in terms of space, however, you should be able to double up on hanging rails. My husband has used a cupboard on our landing to do this which has given him 9ft of hanging space (I don't have this much 😂). You would need to measure your clothes but his longest jacket including the rail is 94cm. You will probably find you only need little full hanging space for long dresses and winter coats and include shoe/bagstorage beneath. I think you do need to look at exactly what you need to store by type/measurements though. I don't know the window height but you may be able to have a small dressing table beneath it. You seemed to have created an alcove in the bedroom in the hand drawn plan? If there is, you could include drawers there.
rinked
4 years ago
So the wall on the right of your kitchen door is about 170cm?
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