Hi ! To answer your question directly - I'd suggest you swap your dishwasher position to the opposite end of that sink run - as DW in a corner prevents you from using the cabinets that are next around the corner or the wall units into corner for plate /glasses storage unless you have arms like MrTickle ! This room, as you've drawn it, looks like you could have L shape as you have done - or parallel galley kitchen which looks like it may offer more storage and work top - or even a U shape with tall storage and perhaps the fridge freezer at the top, a bit like Karen suggested ?! There's so much that could be done - you home is your biggest investment - and your kitchen is often the busiest space ! Consulting a proper professional to help you get the room right for you - is a wise choice - just because you have scissors in your kitchen drawer it doesn't mean you can cut your own hair and it will be awesome ! Same with online planning software ! You need the skills too, unless you are just trimming your fringe ! Kindest regards Karen ( designing professionally since 1985 !! - oh wow that makes me feel old !!! )

Thanks for these. Im not sure if we can do the extra corner bit for number five, but I do like the layout, it will depend on cost, also don't need two tv areas, as we have a front lounge in the house anyway. the office was supposed to be a mixed use room, as a playroom with kids storage and also an occasional bedroom, so sofa bed In there. I know many people have hobs and sinks on islands, but I just think i'll end up dumping things on there.. I have four in the family, two adults, two kids, but we have a lot of people round for entertaining and parties, so space is what I'm after, but was also looking for somewhere the kids can go out of the way from adults if need be. As for kitchen, the reason for having large larder is to put not only food/drink spare fridge in there, but also things we don't use all that often in the kitchen, equipment etc.. I like everything clean and hidden away. The office on number 5 would be separate anyway as this concept includes sliding doors, which fold into the wall, so only entrance would be from outside, not sure if I can afford these yet though. Please keep suggestions coming, or alternatives, all welcome as I can't visualise.. thanks

This is what I just sent as mentioned in above comments ^ I think after a lot of deliberation I am going to tone back my design quite a lot and hopefully build a glass conservatory out in the side return after doing the rest of the the renovations inside the back of the house. This is what I would like to do to begin with: With the intension of doing this after the the above is done: Im just trying to find out from a structural point of view if would I need to add a new steel RSJ in above where the current window opening is in order to put in the french windows, or bottom sliding Bi-folds in, and also find out if I have to move the boiler to make this design comply with building regs? If the answer is yes. Then I think I would bite the bullet and move the boiler and put a bigger opening in here to make something more like this: With a the possibility of adding something like this after the main works had been done: I would like the have a glass and steel conservatory sit on a steel conservatory base that is placed on concrete pads. Like I have found out can be done after coming across this website: https://www.premierlc.co.uk/conservatory-bases-compared/ What do you guys think?

I would be inclined to have more of a U-shaped kitchen (or n-shaped looking at it this way up), with the cabinets starting to the right of that small window and continuing round the top wall to a peninsula between kitchen and dining area. You could do that and still have the sofa where it is in the first option. The fridge placement depends on where everything else is. The plans don't show where the sink, range, ovens, dishwasher, etc. are. Conventionally, the sink is in front of the window, though there's no law saying you have to have it there. You probably want the dishwasher next to the sink. If that were the case in option 1, your refrigerator is at the opposite end of the room from the sink. Depending what sort of cooking you do that might mean a lot of trips back and forth to get produce, wash it before prepping and cooking. On the other hand, you don't want the fridge too far into the kitchen as it is the one appliance that other people need easy access to for getting drinks and snacks. A piece of advice I was given was to plot our cooking on a plan. That might mean a line from fridge to sink to get cabbage to wash, another line to food processor to chop it, then to the range to cook it, to oven to turn it on, to pantry to get potatoes, etc. etc. Then you get to see how efficient the layout is. Or it might just be from freezer to microwave to dining table. A lot will depend on lifestyle. For me, both options seem quite elongated. Definitely, I suggest you start to think about where everything is going to go before making a call on the fridge. I would also think in terms of what you want/need. If you want a sofa there, then you can work that in. I would not put a dresser or hooks there unless that's what you need. Otherwise you'll just end up looking for stuff to put in the dresser or hanging stuff on hooks that really should be put away someplace else. You have a good sized place to plan around, so you should be able to ends up with something that suits you and looks good. In terms of saving money, we have friends who bought a second hand kitchen on eBay. Someone was renovating their kitchen and sold all their units online. It worked for them because they didn't have any awkward spaces to plan around. The end result was fantastic, though it did involve hiring a van and driving across London to collect it. Lastly, you need to recharge your phone battery.