double oven? 2xsingle ovens? warning drawer? help!

5 years ago

Hello, just trying to plan the new kitchen and stuck on what oven space we should have.

I have 2x 600mm wide tall units in the new kitchen to house oven appliances + microwave (with the rest of the storage in these tall units used for storage of baking trays, casserole dishes, hopefully can fit magimix, kenwood chef and bread maker if space so it’s not on the worktop)

The only thing I know is that we need more oven space than we currently have (which is just 1 single oven -it’s a pain when trying to do Sunday roast!)

Combinations I am currently thinking of are either:

Double oven + microwave
2 x single ovens + microwave

But then I started thinking about warming drawers which would also be useful to have....

Our current single oven is perfectly sufficient apart from when e.g doing a Sunday roast, but I’m not sure we need the full oven space of 2 singles and probably a double oven would suffice? The only time of the year when I think a double oven wouldn’t be enough space is Christmas but it seems ridiculous to get 2 singles just for 1 day of the year.

If we do double oven + microwave + warming drawer then this will take up same amount of space as 2xsingles + microwave - does anyone have a warming drawer and are they useful?

The other question is should I split the appliances between the 2 units or have them all on one unit and the other unit for storage of above said items?

Thanks for advice!

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Suzanne C

5 years ago

Siemens do a good range that are symmetrical. I am about the fit 2 single ovens side by side on my kitchen. They are both full size. One is a combination oven with microwave and it has a function to warm plates. The other oven is a steam oven. It looks better being the same size, being symmetrical. It saves me having lots of steamer pots on the hob and in storage.

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Heather
Original Author
5 years ago
*i shouldclarify that when I say “double oven”, I mean one which has full size single plus half size single - like this
Jonathan
5 years ago
Everyone has an opinion on this so here’s my thoughts.
There are very few double ovens on the market and I can’t think of a brand where the double oven matches any other appliances.
You can get different quality single ovens that look the same but sit well side by side. So you could have an entry level single oven and have another that includes your microwave (as microwaves don’t have to be in a compact appliance).
If you put your ovens side by side you can choose a height for both that allows you to safely take out the Christmas turkey. You could also put a warming drawer under each of them.
If you need an additional appliance consider putting a compact oven somewhere else
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I don’t think you can get a double oven that matches a built in microwave. So it sounds like they were trying to help elevate the look- it’s a pity they didn’t dissuade you from the ugly fridge. I agree with Daisy that I wouldn’t want a microwave in a cupboard but if it doesn’t match your main oven then just don’t built it in right next to it….. put it in the peninsula instead. Lots of gas hobs have at least 4.5cm of appliance under the top glass - when people were having 40mm thick worktops this could be hidden in the worktop but if you have selected a thin worktop the hob will intrude into the drawer below. This means a 13/14cm high drawer may be squeezed for space and cutlery not fit. The solution is to put a cutlery tray in the bigger pullout they have drawn on the visual.
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honeypoppet
5 years ago
Hi Heather,

Personally I would go for 2 single ovens, everybody I know who has warming drawers has said they were the biggest waste of money as they don't use them half as much as they thought they would (and they cost nearly as much as an oven).
J
5 years ago
Have you looked at the combi ovens? You can get a single and a microwave/ pyro cleaning oven to stack together. I had this set up and it was great. Most of the time I just used the smaller oven. Maybe a issue if you use the microwave alot and at the same time as your using the appliance as a reg oven.
So with this set up you have essentially a double oven. With the smaller oven doubling up as the microwave.
J
5 years ago
oh and I see it's already been mentioned. :D
Daisy England
5 years ago
There are plenty of double ovens on the market. I rarely use my top oven for cooking, only for grilling bits and bobs, but mainly toast. To be honest I could manage without it but just like the thought of it being there as a back up.

Warming drawers are expensive. We fitted 2 a couple of months ago for a customer (one in each housing under the ovens) and her reason for choosing them was that she didn't like microwaves. Whether or not she has used them, I don't know. They're not something I would personally cough up for.

I guess it depends on how many you're cooking for on special occasions that you feel leads you to want the double oven. I cook for 8 most Christmas days and manage fine in the bottom part of my double oven. The turkey is cooked before everything else goes in and I have 3 shelves

Personally I do not like to see an integrated microwave installed oven a double oven. It's too high.
Julie Norris
5 years ago
We have 2 single ovens and 2 microwaves, purely because it wasn't symmetrical otherwise! We have used both ovens, and not needed to use two microwaves (yet) LOL
Jonathan
5 years ago
For clarity I was trying to say that often the single ovens made by a manufacturer such as Siemens look different to the double ovens so can’t sit side by side as a matching pair. By contrast the compact appliances do marry up well and the addition of a warming drawer makes them the same size as a single oven.
I note Julie’s two microwaves chosen for symmetry but compact appliances don’t have to be microwaves- you could have a small oven, a steam oven, a sous vide oven or coffee maker. Alternatively you could put a compact appliance like a microwave elsewhere- mine is on my island.
Furthermore, functions like a steam oven or microwave are no longer just found in compact appliances so you can buy a full sized oven that includes a microwave.
kikiamack
5 years ago
I have a double oven with a microwave above it. I went for this choice because I was happy with my previous freestanding double oven and a separate microwave. The main oven is slightly smaller than those found in a freestanding cooker, but it’s perfectly fine. I understand what Jonathan is saying about matching the appliances, but when we bought ours in 2015 the microwave did match the double oven (both Siemens), but if that is not possible now then I would definitely factor that into your decision. I think if you went for double oven and microwave you would have to position one above the other as they wouldn’t be the same height for side by side. Re the Kenwood Chef, try and work out a way for it to be stored at waist / worktop height so it’s easy to get out.
Juliet Docherty
5 years ago
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I have two single ovens and use them together quite frequently. Microwave is a cheap ugly thing which hides in the cupboard in the utility room. Could a second single oven could be used as a warming tray?
Heather
Original Author
5 years ago
Thanks for everyone’s help, I think we will go for 2 separate single ovens side by side, then microwave built in above one of the ovens - I’m not bothered about it looking symmetrical! Then get plenty of storage around them for my multiple kitchen appliances! (The kinda that are only used twice a year but I can’t bear to get rid of)
Jonathan
5 years ago
You said that you are not bothered about symmetry but I encourage you to make sure that you don’t neglect the details or you may not like the end result as much which is a pity when you have spent heavily. Furthermore if your kitchen looks botched, even if it is a step up from what you had, should you came to sell your home you could find buyers are not prepared to reimburse you for the money you have spent.
There are however lots of ways of getting the design just right. There are designers and concept planners on here who sell only design. Alternatively you could go to an independent kitchen showroom. If you say roughly where you are in the UK and your budget perhaps you will get recommendations near you.

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