underfloor heating or infrared ceiling panels??

3 years ago

Morning All,

given the go ahead for our house renovation now to start after months of waiting/planning (eek) so I'm trying to narrow down some aspects we hadn't finalised.

Originally we decided to go for underfloor heating in the new extension (8m x 4.2m kitchen diner) which would be open plan L shape with our large lounge. The lounge has original floorboards so it wouldn't have the same u/floor heating in there but has a wood burner.

However pricing is coming in around £2.5-3k for the u/f heating so we were looking at alternative ie the infra red electric panels that both the builder and the architect highly recommended. Benefits being they are cheaper than u/f heating (would need just 3 panels in the kitchen @£145 each) and 1-2 in the living area. Although they are electric, they use up less energy and heat the surface (so the floor, furniture, you) rather than the air. nice heat and can be hidden on the ceiling and as pictures so they don't take up wall space. Oh also controllable.

They sound great but I wanted to ask if anyone has had them and what you think about them?

We were going to re-use some rads anyway as a backup but will have a good output wood burner which should heat up the whole of the area in Winter anyway....

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Emily

3 years ago

I just looked up the infrared panels and actually really like the sound of them. Sounds like clean dry quick heat. I quite like the mirror ones. Would you be having the ceiling ones recessed slightly?

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Susie Gardner
3 years ago
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Hi Tani, I'd recommend an underfloor heating kit so you get the experience of underfloor heating but for cheaper. The quality tends to be the same as traditional underfloor heating, it's just cheaper because you don't get the hands on customer support, you tend to order the kit yourself and ask a plumber/ heating engineer to install it for you.

CircofloPro is really good as the products are manufactured by Timoleon so they are really good quality.

www.circoflopro.co.uk or you can call 0845 0730999 to speak to an expert
Tani H-S
Original Author
3 years ago
Thanks Susie. That pricing was for a lot but it only covered 2/3 of the room so the large lounge would still need specialist u/floor heating or rads anyway.
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Tani H-S
Original Author
3 years ago
I wasn’t planning on recessing them as perhaps the heat won’t come out as well? I’m not entirely sure if they whole thing is a heater or if it comes out the sides, ha ha.
Emily
3 years ago
I’m not sure what I think of them on the ceiling then since I’ve never seen one in real life. But I can imagine them on the walls and think if care is given to their placement and proportion to the particular wall they are placed on (like you would for some art) then I think they would be fine and like I said I like the sound of the heat they provide. And then you’ll never be cold if boiler breaks down first week of November when all the engineers are busy :)
Tani H-S
Original Author
3 years ago
Ha ha. Yes indeed. I was just going for ceiling mounted ones for the rooms and maybe mirror one for the bathroom (depending on the size) but I guess the art wall ones would be better than just a plain white thing stuck on the wall
Gabby
3 years ago
Hi Tani

Again - hijacking your ideas/thoughts.

What did you decide in the end about UFH/other heating sources?

We were also going to have wet UFH in the new extension part of the kitchen/living room, (about 2/3 of each room) with electric UFH in the other 1/3 and dining room as a boost when needed. (and LVT flooring)

Now looking at whether it's worth the cost. Going to get extra piped/electric plinth heaters for the kitchen anyway (could choose to have one facing the living room) Essentially for free minus installation from father-in-law.

Wondering whether we'd ever put the electric UFH on in the other part of the kitchen/living room esp as planning a large rug for the living room! Thinking it might be a sensible area to save some money?
Tani H-S
Original Author
3 years ago
Hi Gabby,

Well after a bit of research and speaking to my electrician re the infra red panels, it was decided to give them a miss.

However, that then meant that we had not planned for UF heating so we ended up having to have high output rads on what few walls we had left! Bit of a pain really.

We have pipes going to the island if we ever want plinth heaters (although they are a bit noisy as operate using fans - even for the plumbed in ones!) to give us more heat in the middle of the room.

To be honest, the rooms are quite warm during the winter days when the sun is out so we only have to worry about evenings and cold winter where our log burner will be on anyway.

If we could go back, we would have had wet UF heating put in the new extension. Wouldn’t bother with electric as too expensive and cheaper just to have rads put in
Gabby
3 years ago
Yea, I think we may stick with the wet UFH in the new half, and scrap the electric. as you say, more expensive to run, and more expensive to install than radiators!

Yea, the fan noise is a bit of an issue, but I think would be ok as long as you can turn them off when wanted, and just have them on for a boost of heat!

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Tani H-S
Original Author
3 years ago
Definately. The fan ones will be handy when it's very cold and you can put them on when you want so flexible.

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