Is this space big enough...
We are renovating our home and want to create a kitchen/diner/family area which includes a sofa and TV. To create the space we are knocking through the current utility room and third bedroom on the ground floor of our townhouse and we are extending out the back. Now I’ve seen the plans I’m starting to worry that the area isn’t big enough for us to do this. Any thoughts, ideas etc most welcome.
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Ellie
3 years agoLeanne Parker-Tyree
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Comments (4)I do agree that it may be cramped with both rooms in the existing bedroom as you're constricted by the window and given the size of the old lounge I would want the en suite/dressing room to feel luxurious in terms of space. I don't know where the plumbing underneath is but you could also consider a short/fake wall in the old lounge to hide either the en suite or a dressing area. Are you looking to include a bath? Alternatively you may be able to do something with a glass wall or box in the old bedroom to give it that feeling of space but it would up the budget a lot! These images are from home stratosphere and homesdirnet. I think it really depends on what you're after from the space in the new bedroom. I do think you can get a shower room and storage in the old bedroom btw but not sure you could add a dressing table...See MoreCan this window become a door?
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Comments (23)Hi A kitchen fitter will be able to do this for you, Howdens may be able to advise you of one or have a look on the ikbbi website and ring round. It'll be a bit fiddly but not impossible to do and assuming that the cabinet to the right of the drawers is not an integrated appliance, if it is then its not possible as you'd need a support panel for the worktop and you don't have the room. I'd suggest an integrated dishwasher but what ever you chose make sure that it can pump the waste water to about 3m away and don't get one with an anti flood device as these are supposed to be fitted vertically and you won't be able to do this, get a long 1.8-2.4m washing machine water feed hose and about 2-3m of washing machine waste hose, connectors and jubilee clips (the connectors may have a reverse thread on them and I used to use plenty of silicon and jubilee clips when i used to make extended waste hoses when i was fitting) avoid the thin flexible concertina extending hoses as these can split. All these available from a plumbers merchant or your kitchen fitter will get/have them. First remove the plinth then the drawer unit will have to come out, this should have slip brackets fixing the worktop down as it looks like wooden tops, wind the legs in and then the fiddly bit may be the unit also been bracketed to the wall so a bit of brute force may be required to remove. keep the drawer fronts for later. The kitchen fitter will then get the dishwasher ready, change the cold fill hose for the longer one (can't do this if the hose has the anti flood though, you'd have just extend it which is bit crap) and extend the waste hose and feed the hoses in the plinth space under the units, slide the dishwasher into place, pull the longer hoses round and feed them into the sink cupboard and connect them to the waste via a spigot (may need to change your waste for a twin spigot waste kit) and if you have a washing machine valve for your washing machine use a brass splitter (plastic ones can break) or he might have to fit an extra valve. For the power he might have to run an extension and plug in under the plinth if there isn't a socket in an adjoining unit. For the integrated facia you can use the 2 drawer fronts you have already, bit fiddly but can be done, check for any leaks and do a wash cycle, then refit the plinth. Easily done in a day for a half decent kitchen fitter or for a competant diy'er and not complicated, the plumbing will all run under the units so no need to disturb any other units apart from the sink unit for the connections, probably the hardest bit might be getting the power there....See MoreHU-715745148
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agowhat Is in your store cupboard on the ground floor? Could turn this into a utility cupboard, with a washer and dryer stacked in here? You could then install a u shaped kitchen with a breakfast bar, as marked on the plan in red. Then you would have space in the extension for a small sofa on the wall and a dining table in front of your doors, opening onto your garden.
Emma Townson
3 years agoWe live in a house which was originally two small cottages both 100yrs old and are currently saving to achieve the same as yourself. What I've found helpful is to measure out things like a sofa and dining table onto tracing paper and you can shift things around on your plan to see how it would function in real life if that makes sense. We have renovated the house in 3 stages so far with more to go. To be honest it's been a steep learning curve and the initial plans the architect gave us would have put the house into negative equity. Just get yourself a scale ruler and you can play about with the design yourself. Hope this helps.
Leanne Parker-Tyree
3 years agoSo here is a closer up plan of the space we are hoping to use for the kitchen/diner and family area with TV on the wall and a sofa. The larder and utility cupboards don’t currently exist - the architect added those as a suggestion and the area will be a blank space. The side where he’s drawn the cooker job is where our current utility room is so all the plumbing is already in situ that side.
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