Hob in a corner - help needed with extraction options please
Hi
We are due to have a new kitchen installed soon and have gone for an induction hob in a corner (where the bread bin is in the photo but further forward). A ceiling mounted island extractor or a corner hood will be far too big for our kitchen. We cannot afford a downdraft extractor plus it might be too big also. There is a solid external wall to one side of the hob (where wine rack is in photo) and we were wondering whether a wall mounted extractor will be powerful enough? As it won't be mounted directly behind and above the hob will be effective enough?
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Comments (13)Hello all Thank you very much for all these comments. First time using Houzz properly and I'm impressed. Before reading these, I actually played around with the layout a bit further myself last night and came to the same conclusion as some of your suggestions. I've attached an updated possible plan - but in the same 3d software (which is certainly limited, but still pretty helpful since it's free!). I've tried to label some of the key appliances. This layout places the oven and hob (750mm wide - I'd prefer 900mm if at all possible) in a different position and avoids the window problem, but also has space either side (which would be best). To answer most of your questions: Internal room dimensions are 4520mm wide by 4450mm long, 2650mm tall However, there is currently a thick wall along the entrance to the kitchen, immediately to the left of the door - this houses a chimney flue (for our property and the one below). The chimney stack has been removed from the roof and we are able to knock into some of that wall, to increase the amount of the kitchen with length 4450mm. However in the far corner (by the smaller window), we would like to keep the existing thick wall because there is a cupboard in the adjacent room that uses that void from the other side. In my latest design, you'll see how much of the wall we think we might want to take out in order to create more space at the room entrance. The breakfast bar stools are a nice-to-have - the main purpose of the peninsular is to slightly separate the kitchen part from the rest of the room and allow conversations across it whilst chopping, having a drink, etc. T a drinks cooler at one end which we would like to fit in somewhere and I just thought the stools on the other side / at the corner might be handy when it's just me and my wife. The fridge (in the corner by the new outside door) is large American Style in my latest design but that's not essential - a good sized 600mm fridge freezer would be fine too, especially if we have the drinks cooler. I haven't looked at induction hobs and have always preferred gas in the past, but I will research these - thank you. I agree that the microwave should be integrated if possible! As mentioned, the boiler (and all the pipework) would ideally stay in its current position to save the cost of moving it - but we'd want to then box it in and fit other things around it. I think that just about works in the latest design idea. Caldicot Kitchen & Bathroom Centre - thank you for your kind offer to mock something up in your own software. I'm a novice at this and yes, the software I found doesn't allow that much customisation of unit heights etc. hence the untidiness! This also isn't trying to show the style we want - and we haven't yet thought a huge amount about that. We'd probably opt for granite work surfaces and wooden units in simple light colours. Leaning towards traditional kitchen styling, not too modern. The property is a 1910 maisonette with period fire places in some rooms, although doors are shaker style. Floor wise - we'd like a stone / tile look but warm and easy to clean so not natural stone!...See Moreextraction fan for kitchen island
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ronmorino
7 years agoThank you all very much indeed for all your input.
Jonathan, please see photos of plan. Not having a blind on the window is not an issue. We don't have one now. Worktop installation apparently can be worked around (so I've been told by supplier)
Daisy England, we don't like the oven under the counter and therefore cant have the hob where it is now. Trouble is, we have two windows in the kitchen and a door leading to the garden and that leaves just two walls against which to have the hob. The other wall is right by the entrance so we can't have the hob there which leaves us the corner.
SL and Lauren - the idea of a reduced height wall unit with an extractor fitted to the bottom sounds like a good/affordable plan. But as it will be a little distance away from the hob will it be powerful enough? Picture of the plan might help you see what I mean.
OnePlan, that is a very nice hood indeed and would work nicely. But very expensive for me. Unless my numbers come up in tonight's Euro Millions... :-)
Lauren
7 years agoUnless you like to cook a lot of fry-up's I think a fairly powerful extractor fan should still be effective even when set back a bit.
If you really want to position it over the hob you could have a contractor build in a robust boxed in false wall onto which you could have a normal 60 or 50cm wide extractor hood mounted. It would have to be anchored well to support the weight, the electrician would need to allow more power cable and a longer flue but it shouldn't be all that expensive or difficult to do. You'd probably want to make the cupboard next to it an open one or check carefully that the door is still functional.
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7 years agoHave you bought everything already? Is it too late for a rethink?
I think I would investigate making this into a galley kitchen with glass doors to the garden and then have a run of units down each side. This would necessitate blocking up the back door but would be lots easier to fit everything in
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