Position of kitchen in extended Victorian terrace
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Need help with kitchen planning in our Victorian terrace flat
Comments (5)Hi Daisy, Thanks for your comment - my thoughts about your thoughts: I wouldn't put the washing machine next to the oven. By doing that it leaves you with a straight corner base (in which you have the sink) which means the right hand door will provide you with access to the corner only by crawling on your hands and knees. In this corner try to replan using a 900 L shaped base which means both doors can be opened to allow full and easy access. How far away can the plumbing stretch for a washing machine? Would you recommend to put it in any particular place instead? I understand that the corner cabinet would be wasted space but I can't really think of anywhere else to put it - the plumbing is directly behind the sink. A definite no no to the microwave in the wall unit for me. Dangerous to lift hot liquids out of. A sure hazard. Don't forget you'll also be stretching over the worktop to reach this. Good point! My partner isn't happy with that either, she's sure she'll end up spilling something! It's likely we'll get a freestanding microwave. Is there any way you can make a window seat in front of the low sash window? It would be nice to see the view while dining. Perhaps a window seat for 2 people a square table and then 2 chairs on the other side? That sounds good - it would not obstruct the window and kind of be like a low bench, I've mocked it up using the kitchen planner (obviously need to rethink the table and doors). Where the table currently is would you have room for a couple of tall units ..... this could be fridge/freezer, single oven and integrated microwave over or larder unit (that's if you're happy with the window seat idea). I think if we did the window seat idea - there still wouldn't be enough room on that chimney breast unfortunately. From the outside on the Ikea and Magnet plan you will be able to see the worktop so you could have the bottom of the sash windows with frosted glass. You can buy a film to do this yourself. Most worktops are only 600mm deep. I know Ikea's are deeper but that's taking up essential space and providing a bigger hangover at the front. Thanks for that, if we go with the breakfast bar idea - then we will look into frosting the glass. We're on the 1 & 2nd floor so it's not really overlooked....See MoreMove kitchen to dining room in Victorian terrace with PD extension
Comments (12)We have just extended our house in exactly the same way but our dining room is at the front, kitchen in the middle and lounge at the back. Our ground floor is now opened up right through from front to back with pocket doors to section off the dining room. We are on a main road so it made more sense to have the lounge where it's more private/quiet. We didn't add the toilet, like in your plan, as our space is 3.2m wide but if we had more space would defo of added one. Layout works perfectly for us. Kitchen is now the heart of the home and we now use every each of the space, instead of the old dining room being a thoroughfare that never got used. Perfect layout if you have kids and need 360 views of them. The main things to consider, I feel, are the position of the boiler and boiler flue, adequate lighting for the kitchen as might be darker after the extension. Get as much light (natural and artificial) into the kitchen as you can and also consider adequate ventilation for the kitchen: we chose a very powerful extractor to minimise smells/steam/mould from cooking, and chose electrically operated skylights for the extension. We also chose Quiet Mark appliances to minimise noises form the kitchen....See MoreVictorian Mid Terrace Extension Advice & Creative Ideas Needed
Comments (6)Thank you for your comments @drpepe101 and @rosemonde. The kitchen on the new plan is how our kitchen is now, the new plan only includes a small extension to the rear. The kitchen is not actually that dark, the back of the house and garden is SW facing so luckily we do get a good amount of light. It also does not feel cramped but that is due to the fact that it has been badly designed with hardly any cupboards - the fridge/freezer and our food is currently in the 'office' behind the kitchen! So I definitely agree that in order to create a kitchen in that space with all the cupboards we need - it will end feeling cramped. I did really want to take out the wall and chimney stack that separates the current kitchen from the office room behind it. We have had three different architects to view the property and they all felt that whilst not impossible it would be a very difficult job. The wall (which is the original exterior wall) is 2 feet thick and is built from large blocks of local stone, as well as having the chimney stack running through the centre all the way up to the roof. I am now thinking the best solution would be a side return extension either for just the width of the kitchen (sketch attached) which would not require planning i believe as it would be under 6m or possibly a longer side return. I wouldn't necessarily need a separate utility if we are widening the kitchen as i could incorporate a washing machine etc in to the kitchen. I would like a downstairs WC somewhere though. Currently our shoes/costs are stored in the cupboard under the stairs. If we went with this layout i would like to create a better opening between the kitchen and existing dining area and put pocket doors or similar in between the lounge and dining room so we can close off the lounge to make it feel cosier when we want to. Will check out the George Clarke shows! Thank you for the recommendation....See MoreKitchen Victorian terrace - without building into side return
Comments (9)Thanks both! We’ve had the ‘small extensions aren’t worth it’ comment too - but still exploring whether it might be worth it to us if just grabbing a 1.5 metre by 2.72 metre bit of extra space at the end of the kitchen means we can run our kitchen table either (a) parallel to the new end wall patio doors with the kitchen units fitted galley style down both sides of the remaining kitchen or (b) parallel to the side return wall with kitchen units down the full length of the opposite side… Since our house is split level with steps down to our kitchen it’s not so feasible for us to build into the side return to any great extent since this then means the steel of the new roof over the side return slices through the middle of the window in the back living room… hence the only feasible alternative might be to build into half of the side return leaving a very small 1 metre by 1 metre courtyard adjoining that back living room window (or not building into the side return at all). Could we fit a kitchen table seating 6 people into a 2 metre by 2.72 metre space?...See More- PRO
Scarlett Swallow
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Scarlett Swallow
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoOf course it would 🤦♀️
Here’s the floor plan.
The space is to accommodate family sized kitchen, dining area with space for a 6 person table which can be extended to 10 at a push - probably with a built in banquet on the wall side, and space for a sofa/play area.
the steps down to the back door haven’t been built yet, so the back door can go on either side .
The length of the room (including the bit leading up to the utility room door) is 8.5m, and it’s 5m wide, slightly narrowing right by the bifold/back door to 4.8m.
The pillar in the middle is 1.4m x 80cm, on either side of it its 1.7m.
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Scarlett Swallow
2 years agoAnd this is the kitchen layout I had in my mind, now worry it will be too hot under the south facing roof lights? We don’t currently have any south facing windows so it’s hard for me to get an idea!
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoOh now I remember, you were the one where I made this for?
How far is the build?
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Scarlett Swallow
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2 years agoThere you go.
Kitchen, starting left to right: side panel, 60 dw, 60 sink, 3x 900 drawer with hob centered on last two, no upper units as you don't want to block light, but a shelf (20cm deep) with lights in them would be nice. Then tall units with oven, utility door, fridge, shallow unit (and upper) next to it for making drinks, on bottom wall some more units for storage. Play area and wide shallow shoe cubbies next to the backdoor. Dining table no wider than 80cm. Island with 2x 80cm drawers on kitchen side, on the 'kids side' shallow units for toys, crayons and games.
Shower pan in drawing is 70x90cm, toilet needs 80, sink requires about 70cm.
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoMy only other thought was to block off the old door way - perhaps with an internal glazed window to let the light into the hallway and maintain a view of the garden through the house - like this.
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2 years agoWouldn't do it because of traffic lines. And island should be less deep with an L-shaped kitchen, I'd sauggest a coffee corner only. But it's allright if you want this layout, as I could only judge on-site if it has the best views and such.
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