Built-in oven and hob type recommendations. Also island length for hon
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Ellie
4 years ago
Daisy England
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Comments (10)Thanks for your comments so far; it’s really helpful to get other points of view. Maths Wife, I’m with you on the pantry idea! In fact, I spent a long time trying to work out if we could put one there by getting decent-width access to the garden via another route. But coming through from the front door involves a narrow hallway and getting through several internal doors, and coming via the utility room would involve losing washing space to add a door, and a sharp right-hand turn. Apart from the fact that we’ll ultimately re-landscape our entire garden, which will all need to come through the house, I also sometimes use a mobility scooter, and although I don’t intend to take it into the house, I’d rather be safe than sorry in terms of access. We’re compensating for the lack of pantry by planning on turning the area outside those doors into a little shaded patio with small table/chairs. So in theory we could have those doors wide open in the summer, and have garden views from both ends of the kitchen. minnie101, I didn’t explain the meals for 30 very well . We set up another table in the playroom in those cases, so about half the people in each room. So in the kitchen I just want to make sure that we can have table fully extended whenever we need it, which seats about 14. For the drinks area, yes we’re debating having bifold doors so there is max countertop space for a small sink, kettle etc. As you say, it makes sense and saves the countertop space elsewhere, just makes for an expensive cupboard The roof lantern size is indeed limited by the fact that’s the only area of the kitchen that isn’t double storey. Other than squaring out a corner, we are keeping to the current footprint, as it’s just about on maximum extension already. That area, in a bizarre design choice by the previous owners, is currently the utility room, which just about blocks any view onto the garden - we need the lights on even in summer, despite that being a south facing view. I’ve spent most of the last 6 years trying to understand WHY someone would choose that layout as part of a fairly substantial extension, even going so far as to move the kitchen, which was south facing, to the other end of the room. I’ve yet to think of a sensible explanation…. We are going for a fairly timeless/modern country look, hence the orangery rather than bifolds, and also want to maximise the light as it’s a long room. Fingers crossed, it will look something like this, although with a lot more planting around it and step-free patio....See MoreEllie
4 years ago
Monica
4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoEllie
4 years agoDaisy England
4 years agoDaisy England
4 years agoHere’s one example and the price is good but I haven’t looked at the technical, output etc
Christian Meikle
4 years ago
Hob and extractor (recircilating or vent out). On island. Works brilliantly.
rinked
4 years agoEllie
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4 years agoEllie
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4 years agoI'm really trying to see how you've imagined your layout to be..
Because in the floorplan you've drawn the hallway door (to begin with) would give issues. It also looks way off, if I may say. This is a remake of your scetch (nevermind the cabinet types and such):
Ellie
4 years agoEllie
4 years agoSome pics for you... bay window, sloped ceiling in kitchen, door to conservatory. It's a weird space!
Ellie
4 years agoEllie
4 years agoI know what you mean by the kitchen door....
Opposite the kitchen door, in the hallway, is door to lounge. See pic, if door into kitchen is able to open like this then I thought doorway could work?
rinked
4 years agoMy suggestion would be no island..
An island means being stuck with this huge 'lump' in your space. No flexibility at all.
And I really like weird spaces and challenging kitchen designs (it's what I do for a living), but even more I like people to have workable layouts. Even if that means being a little blunt..
I guess the sliding doors are ordered and soon to be installed?rinked
4 years agoIs there a posibility to drill some holes towards the conservatory and place your washing machine there (other side of wall)? So your oven could go in the top right corner?
Ellie
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4 years agoYou need the space to move around, as there is plenty of 'traffic'. By adding an island you're also adding an aisle.
Sonia
4 years ago
Danielle H
4 years agoEllie
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4 years agolast modified: 4 years agoPlacing the island like this would fit. But I think it's a waste of good space. And you'd have this large glass wall.. behind you..
So if you can let go the island idea, "a central space of 3.5 m X 5 m with only a dining table in it" would be the best I can come up with. It will not feel empty; when dressed right it will feel grand.rinked
4 years agoJust another before I'm off to bed.
The 8 seats are merely to show how much would fit in, tables are 150x90cm each, so when using regular/folding chairs there could be some more for a cozy Christmas dinner :)
Ellie
4 years agoDanielle H
4 years agomy thinking was the table could be pushed flush with the island the majority of the time leaving a gap to walk past of approx 140cm. Thats with a 110cm gap between island and units, 90cm island and 90cm table. Or if you rotate the table and have it pushed with one end against the island, a 120cm table would sit 4 and leave 110cm to pass which is the same as the gap between island and units. If it was an extending table it can be rotated 90 degrees on the rare occasion more seating is required. Yes, it would mean it would probably close off that side of the room but if it's not a daily occurance? Some compromises will have to be made if you really want to fit everything in that space unfortunately.
Lara
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